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PuckSniperPensel
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Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.


Actually, he said it was important to know music.

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Knowing the note names mean nothing, but then again, they play an important part to this clue. Find a way to make those notes turn into Letters of the alphabet and you will all facepalm when you find out the answer and how simple it could be, or complicated if you are completely music illiterate.


Basically saying that if you're music illiterate, you'll have problems figuring this out.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.


Actually, he said it was important to know music.

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Knowing the note names mean nothing, but then again, they play an important part to this clue. Find a way to make those notes turn into Letters of the alphabet and you will all facepalm when you find out the answer and how simple it could be, or complicated if you are completely music illiterate.


Basically saying that if you're music illiterate, you'll have problems figuring this out.

The most you will need to understand about music is what a sharp and flat is and how the correspond with the other notes.

Wozniak is on the right path with this clue, just a bit more thinking and tweaking he will solve it.


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well sharps made notes higher and flats make em lower. hmm


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E D A E-flat C E E C F-sharp B E-flat C G G-sharp F-sharp B-flat B D-flat D-natural G G-sharp F F C G-sharp F-sharp G-sharp G-natural

D G D H G A C D H H G H G

F E F F E C E D F F E F G

Those are the notes with sharp and flat designation, 1 letter forwards or backwards, depending on it's designation, and the way by which the assassin may have interpreted it.

Any note that had a natural designation I included and kept it as itself.

EDIT: Although, if you want to talk about how they correspond with other notes, a D flat is the same as a C sharp. Let me try something else.

E D A E-flat C E E C F-sharp B E-flat C G G-sharp F-sharp B-flat B D-flat D-natural G G-sharp F F C G-sharp F-sharp G-sharp G-natural

DGDAGACDAAGAG

Those are the notes transposed to reflect their letter designations of their opposite tone designations, retaining any natural notes as themselves.

Example: The first note that is designated as a flat, sharp, or natural note in the sheet music is an E flat. An E-flat is the same as a D-sharp. Therefore, the first letter in the sequence posted above is a D.

E D A E-flat C E E C F-sharp B E-flat C G G-sharp F-sharp B-flat B D-flat D-natural G G-sharp F F C G-sharp F-sharp G-sharp G-natural

DDAC - Flats transposed as shown above.

GAGAAGA - Sharps transposed as shown above.

DG - Natural notes in sequence.

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I've been trying similar things as you PSP, but I can't seem to get any decent results when putting it into the anagram solver. It stumps me. But i suppose when your limited to the letters G A B C D E and F its hard to get a lot of word combinations which makes me wonder if theres a way to convert the notes into different letters somehow.


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motzie12ak wrote:
I've been trying similar things as you PSP, but I can't seem to get any decent results when putting it into the anagram solver. It stumps me. But i suppose when your limited to the letters G A B C D E and F its hard to get a lot of word combinations which makes me wonder if theres a way to convert the notes into different letters somehow.


I was going to try to count the semitones between each note and turn them into letters, but the assassin has made it clear that the sharp and flat designation is important for some reason.

I'm thinking too musically.

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if i remember from chorus correctly the rule for sharps is look at the last sharp and go up a half step. as for flats look at second to last flat. that is for finding a key. but like has been said flats drop the note a half step while the sharp raises the note a half step. what would happen if the flats and sharps did not exist, maybe try playing like that. just a guess.

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Seems like the assassin wanted us to look at every note in that range and not limit ourselves to just the actual note names.

I think Wozniak has it close, but he only did spaces and lines, and not the flat and sharp thing.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.


Actually, he said it was important to know music.

Assassinator wrote:
Knowing the note names mean nothing, but then again, they play an important part to this clue. Find a way to make those notes turn into Letters of the alphabet and you will all facepalm when you find out the answer and how simple it could be, or complicated if you are completely music illiterate.


Basically saying that if you're music illiterate, you'll have problems figuring this out.

see this is what happens when you skim the clues. :doh:

anyway. since i cant read music or anything of the sort lettering the bards were really the only thing i could come up with, outside of tracing the shapes.

what if we shouldnt be looking for an anagram but something like "every other letter?"

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Wozniak wrote:
heres what ive been playing around with

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Woz, I was going to consider the flats to be one letter down and the sharps one letter up. In other words, instead of BCFI, the I is a flat, so I get BCFH.

I tried to follow it through but had a total brain fart when it came to the staccato and had no idea what to do from there. It would be pointless for me (the musically challenged) to try and help at this point.
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SchonyGal wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
heres what ive been playing around with

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Woz, I was going to consider the flats to be one letter down and the sharps one letter up. In other words, instead of BCFI, the I is a flat, so I get BCFH.

I tried to follow it through but had a total brain fart when it came to the staccato and had no idea what to do from there. It would be pointless for me (the musically challenged) to try and help at this point. Pay no attention to me ;)

Staccato Schony? Trust me on this one, there are no staccato notes there.

If you mean the natural sign, then it's not a sharp or flat again.

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Staccato Schony? Trust me on this one, there are no staccato notes there.

If you mean the natural sign, then it's not a sharp or flat again.


I don't know what I mean. I asked Mr. Schony what the two different symbols were (not the sharp, not the flat) and he that they were staccato so that's what I typed :oops:

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http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cg ... =n&q=n&k=1
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Assassinator wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.


Actually, he said it was important to know music.

Assassinator wrote:
Knowing the note names mean nothing, but then again, they play an important part to this clue. Find a way to make those notes turn into Letters of the alphabet and you will all facepalm when you find out the answer and how simple it could be, or complicated if you are completely music illiterate.


Basically saying that if you're music illiterate, you'll have problems figuring this out.

The most you will need to understand about music is what a sharp and flat is and how the correspond with the other notes.

Wozniak is on the right path with this clue, just a bit more thinking and tweaking he will solve it.


So the assassin is basically saying the notes themselves aren't numerically or alphabetically important.

All we need to know about sharps and flats is that whether or not they mean up or down.

So Woz is on the right track.

Hmmm....

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Someone transpose it to bass clef and take down the notes.

not sure how much that would help. the assassinator said that knowing music wouldnt do any good.


Actually, he said it was important to know music.

Assassinator wrote:
Knowing the note names mean nothing, but then again, they play an important part to this clue. Find a way to make those notes turn into Letters of the alphabet and you will all facepalm when you find out the answer and how simple it could be, or complicated if you are completely music illiterate.


Basically saying that if you're music illiterate, you'll have problems figuring this out.

The most you will need to understand about music is what a sharp and flat is and how the correspond with the other notes.

Wozniak is on the right path with this clue, just a bit more thinking and tweaking he will solve it.


So the assassin is basically saying the notes themselves aren't numerically or alphabetically important.

All we need to know about sharps and flats is that whether or not they mean up or down.

So Woz is on the right track.

Hmmm....

It looks like what they said, to know the actual notes names aren't important, but where they are is important.

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Oh I agree sky. I'm just saying, if you're trying to draw a connect the dots sort of thing, you need to know whether to go up or down on a note that has a sharp or flat designation, in order to draw and connect the dots correctly.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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I just can't wait. Here is the second victim clue, good luck to all who try and figure this one out.
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E D A E-flat C E E C D-sharp (F-sharp ?) B E-flat C G G-sharp F-sharp B-flat B D-flat D-natural (B-flat B-natural ?) G G-sharp F F C G-sharp F-sharp G-sharp (no sharp) G-natural


I'm not sure but the red ones might be incorrect

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I have no musical talent so I'm pretty useless on this one

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I tried something today:

low E="A", F="B", F-sharp/G-flat= "C", G="D", G-sharp/A-flat="E" ..... and the high E = "Y";

I get: YWRLIAAICTLIDEOSTGHDENNIEODD

Irony's name is almost in there, just 1 "S" is missing. Someone should check if I made a mistake.

PS: It could be that the high E = "A" and the low E = "Y". I didn't try.

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