Crosscheck wrote:
PatGreen wrote:
Crosscheck wrote:
And I never called anyone irresponsible or negligent. I'm not a dick. thanks.
i think he was calling them that, not saying that you did.
I took it as projection. I apologize if that wasn't the case Yankee, but I suspect it was
Paranoid much? No where did I assign those opinions to you, they are wholly my own.
because...(gasp) believe it or not, SOME of us liberals actually WORK, and PAY FOR OUR OWN SHIT. I dont like the thought of handouts, and i'm actually completely against welfare.
I'm TRYING (unsuccessfully because none of you right wingers will actually answer the question) to resolve the apparent conundrum that *should* arise from the libertarian mindset regarding the mandate. I GET IT, there is a clause in the constitution which makes it unconstitutional. Fine, thats really not what i'm asking. For one freaking second stop repeating that and actually think about what i'm asking. Dont you want people to take personal responsibility for their healthcare? I sure as fuck do, I dont want to pay for other people any more than necessary. I see this mandate as making complete sense because it forces those people to take care of their own costs, NOT being irresponsible and visiting the ER for their care.
From what i've heard from you over the years you are completely FOR people taking care of themselves, self sufficiency, ending the welfare state, etc etc. We completely agree on that, which makes it seem like your objection to the mandate is far more based on general obama hatred than some clause in the constitution.
You already have insurance, dont you? Then you'd be fine, and this wouldnt even affect you. AS LONG AS PEOPLE HAVE INSURANCE THEY ARE FINE. What the hell is the problem with this?
Bottom line, if you're a deadbeat, and want to sponge off society this is one less way you're capable of doing so. How come people on the right object to that!?