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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:10 am 
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For some reason I found this newest cyber-weapon hilarious

http://politics.slashdot.org/story/12/0 ... -with-acdc

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This time, the unverified e-mail claims, a new Metasploit-based malware owns Iranian VPNs, causes fault in the nuclear plants' Siemens-based industrial control systems, and randomly starts to play AC/DC's 'Thunderstruck' aloud via the infected computers' speakers.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:06 pm 
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I have yet to understand why Siemens systems have any connectivity to live networks, and why controls aren't followed for ensuring that portable media isn't scanned/vetted before being connected to the infrastructure network.

Shit's scary.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:48 am 
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They're not connected to outside networks.
When stuxnet got in it was widely reported it must have been brought in my an employee or contractor.

Good ole secret agent type stuff :)

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Crosscheck wrote:
They're not connected to outside networks.
When stuxnet got in it was widely reported it must have been brought in my an employee or contractor.

Good ole secret agent type stuff :)


No connectivity to that system should be provided prior to some sort of media scan. I realize that then you have to attack the scanner before being able to inject naughty bits into the system, but any added level of hardening to the system would be welcome, I would bet.

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you can only scan incoming media if you're aware of it, I assume they weren't...and in the case of stuxnet, I doubt it would have been detected since it was something entirely new at the time of infection.

Hey, I'm just glad we're on the giving end and not the receiving end of these things.

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Crosscheck wrote:
Hey, I'm just glad we're on the giving end and not the receiving end of these things.


I feel like it's only a matter of time...

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NYIntensity wrote:
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Hey, I'm just glad we're on the giving end and not the receiving end of these things.


I feel like it's only a matter of time...

I'm sure the Chinese are on it...I think we've got the smarter guys though.
Odd future we have...wars will be won with brain power, not firepower.

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Crosscheck wrote:
I'm sure the Chinese are on it...I think we've got the smarter guys though.



Not that i'm at all familiar with the world of malicious software, but in terms of my vocation i'd have to generally agree with this. And, not across the board of course, but i've definitely noticed a trend of a lack of creativity and imagination on the part of my chinese counterparts. They are EXCELLENT scientists when they're working with a protocol, but improvisation, innovation, vision...not their strong suit, and it makes sense, because from what I can tell they also do not value those traits as being important.


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Let's just not piss off the Koreans to the point that they divert time from playing Starcraft.

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