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 Post subject: POMMERS SENT HOME
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:02 pm 
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not good news...hope he is ok :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: POMMERS SENT HOME
PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:16 pm 
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I'm no neurologist, but I played one on TV, and this seems a little fucked to me.
Seriously, I know we don't want anyone coming back from a concussion too soon. But that "test" that Pommers refers to below is a joke. How can that stupid test pass for a scientificly valid way to prove ample recovery? This is complete idiocy. If a guy decides he wants to get back back in the line-up no matter what, all he has to do is tank his first "test". It seems to me like this "process" is bullshit and needs to be done away with immediately, and Pommers should be back in the line up already.

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Coach Lindy Ruff told the Buffalo News. "There's been no ill effects from practicing. He's gone full go. He's gone through battle drills. He had no headaches, stuff like that. There have been no side effects to exercise. Normally, what sets a guy back is he will have headaches or he won't feel right, or he may feel dizzy or lightheaded, but Jason has had none of that, so it's a little bit of a different area for us."

In order to return from a concussion, a player must first take a pair of tests when they feel that they have returned to full health. The first is to establish a baseline, and then the player must match that baseline in the second test in order to be cleared to play.

"It's one of those that, even without having this concussion, it's a pretty tough test," Pominville told the Buffalo News earlier in the week. "You've got to remember different shapes, different words. It's all memory stuff. They show you a sheet for maybe 10 seconds, and you've got to remember as many things as you can that are on the sheet and draw it exactly the same way.

"It's stuff that's pretty interesting, but at the same time if you have a bad day you might not pass it. If the first time you did you had a great day, it might be tough to get back to that level."


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=339122

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 Post subject: Re: POMMERS SENT HOME
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 3:15 pm 
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That really sucks. Hope he gets better...

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 Post subject: Re: POMMERS SENT HOME
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:32 pm 
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BagBoy wrote:
I'm no neurologist, but I played one on TV, and this seems a little fucked to me.
Seriously, I know we don't want anyone coming back from a concussion too soon. But that "test" that Pommers refers to below is a joke. How can that stupid test pass for a scientificly valid way to prove ample recovery? This is complete idiocy. If a guy decides he wants to get back back in the line-up no matter what, all he has to do is tank his first "test". It seems to me like this "process" is bullshit and needs to be done away with immediately, and Pommers should be back in the line up already.

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Coach Lindy Ruff told the Buffalo News. "There's been no ill effects from practicing. He's gone full go. He's gone through battle drills. He had no headaches, stuff like that. There have been no side effects to exercise. Normally, what sets a guy back is he will have headaches or he won't feel right, or he may feel dizzy or lightheaded, but Jason has had none of that, so it's a little bit of a different area for us."

In order to return from a concussion, a player must first take a pair of tests when they feel that they have returned to full health. The first is to establish a baseline, and then the player must match that baseline in the second test in order to be cleared to play.

"It's one of those that, even without having this concussion, it's a pretty tough test," Pominville told the Buffalo News earlier in the week. "You've got to remember different shapes, different words. It's all memory stuff. They show you a sheet for maybe 10 seconds, and you've got to remember as many things as you can that are on the sheet and draw it exactly the same way.

"It's stuff that's pretty interesting, but at the same time if you have a bad day you might not pass it. If the first time you did you had a great day, it might be tough to get back to that level."


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=339122



you can't really tank the first one. I believe the first and second tests are pretty much the same. the first establishes the base line for the player. the second needs to match the first pretty close like... its memory driven mainly...

The NFL has gone to this as well, but their base line tests are done at the start of the season... Id guess the NHL may have done something similar as well...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:44 pm 
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Oh you can tank thoses tests pretty easily. I gave a full battery of those tests evveryday for four years when I was a mental health tech in the service. All you have to do is not try very hard and you'll score lower, thhen on the one that counts just pay attention and you'll score far above your baseline and be fine. The tirck is just to not suck too much the first time. You don't want people thinking you got your noodole too scrambled.

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