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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:37 pm 
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Make your own top 5 list of drummers, let's see how they compare, and then let's have knife fights behind a dumpster!

1. Danny Carey (Tool) This guy is destined to climb everybody's list, just wait and see. Listen to the double bass at the end of Schism, the timing, the delicate touch bleeding into a waterfall of power. Listen to the intro for Ticks and Leaches, calculated, jazzy, gets the dudes heads bobbing and the ladies hips shaking and then all of that humanity is buried under an earthquake of 100% pure Awesome. Carey has put in the training, the hard work, he innovates, he pushes the envelope, he's right at home playing in a jazz club or busting guts in stadiums. Listen to Sober, think you can play that? Sounds pretty easy, right? Yeah, good luck with that. The timing is insanely retarded, his own style is a challenge to even himself.

2. Neal Peart (Rush) All of the above. Listen to Tom Sawyer, that's his Sober. This is a guy I admire because he has persevered through the darkest depths of Hell in his personal life. Losing his daughter and then his wife.

3. Bill Bruford (King Crimson and Yes) The Jimi Hendrix of drumming. Not a lot of good songs in my opinion (not unlike Hendrix), at least not chart toppers, but he was pretty creative.

4. John Bonham (yeah, THAT band) It's pretty hard to imagine any drummer standing out with those 3 bastards disintegrating the landscape with their epic awesomeness in front of you. But he stood out, and in fact carried many a Zep tune.

5. Lars Ulrich (Metallica) When I was in high school, he was the drummer that you played air drums with. He let MTV in on the double bass, old Metallica = tremendous drumming!

Those are my all-time favorites!

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1. Brann Dailor, Mastodon

2. John Bonham, Led Zeppelin

3. Tomas Haake, Meshuggah

4. Neil Peart, Rush (side note: I groped the shit out of his 360-degree kit at the R&RHOF)

5. Des Kenzel, High on Fire

Those are my favorites

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Peart was in town last night, my friends tell me it was an epic show. :(

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I don't like Def Leppard, but Rick Allen deserves an honorable mention. Fucker has one arm and he can still tear it up.

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4. John Bonham (yeah, THAT band) It's pretty hard to imagine any drummer standing out with those 3 bastards disintegrating the landscape with their epic awesomeness in front of you. But he stood out, and in fact carried many a Zep tune.


Moby Dick was awesome.

I have the "How the West was Won" DVD and the "White Summer/Black Mountainside" live was great. John was clearly getting hammered during Page's guitar solo.

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I'm sort of shocked nobody has mentioned Keith Moon yet.
I've never seen anyone else do so much with a drum kit and make it look so easy.

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My top 4 would have to be:

1: Dave Lombardo (Slayer)
2. Paul Bostaph (Testament/Slayer)
3. Neil Peart (Rush)
4. Lars Ulrich (MetallicA)

I’ve had some people rip on me for saying that Lombardo is a drumming god because he’s in Slayer. The guy has done lots of other projects and some of his drum clinics (which can be viewed on youtube/google video) are absolutely retarded-amazing! Lars ranks low on my list because the guy just doesn't seem to have the drive today to keep up on his drumming skills and continues to ride the accolades he's earned by being one of the founding fathers of MetallicA. He's a good drummer, don't get me wrong, but for the genre he's supposed to be a part of, he ain't metal anymore which is a shame really because he was amazing back in the day. Bostaph is very similar to Lombardo (IMO). Very fast & aggressive. When he gets going on the double kick, it sounds like an M-60 going off in your ear! Peart, well, anyone who does the theme to Hockey Night in Canada and has his drums on display in the Hockey Hall of Fame is just “Win” in my books ;)

Oh, and honorable mention to Joey Jordison (Slipknot). Considering he’s a little guy, he makes some MAJOR fat noise on the skins!!! \m/ I’m not really a fan of Slipknot, but his drumming is fucking stupid fast!

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BagBoy wrote:
I'm sort of shocked nobody has mentioned Keith Moon yet.
I've never seen anyone else do so much with a drum kit and make it look so easy.



You just did.

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1. Neil Peart

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Crosscheck wrote:
1. Neil Peart

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BagBoy wrote:
I'm sort of shocked nobody has mentioned Keith Moon yet.
I've never seen anyone else do so much with a drum kit and make it look so easy.

Bingo. This is why the music forum has the potential to cause more bad blood than the politics forum. It's hard for me to even fathom how someone would mention for example (not to pick on you X-pens, but it was the OP) the drummer for Tool before Keith Moon. The man was an animal. In fact, the inspiration FOR Animal.


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OK, I've thought about this one on and off since my last post. I'll give my list, but I'm going to leave John Bonham off because he's gotten plenty of props already. And I'm not going to rank the drummers:

Keith Moon, The Who- As I've already mentioned, no top drummers list is complete without this guy. He was, quite simply, a madman on the skins. All fills, to the point where you could almost lose track of what the percussive theme was, yet he never came off sounding masturbatory, and always perfectly complimented the song.

Stewart Copleand, The Police- This guy can do more with a hi-hat than most people can do with an entire trap set. Such intricate rhythms and accents.

Russell Simmins, the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion- I'm not sure any drummer has ever made simple, standard beats and patterns sound so fucking good.

Mac McNeilly, The Jesus Lizard- The anchor of one of the best rhythm sections ever, and someone who could make an irregular time signature sound like a goodtimes rock song, all while keeping the mosh pit in a frenzy

Charlie Watts, The Rolling Stones- Maybe the most underrated rock drummer of all time. Always on point, and never overbearing.


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I didn't intend to rank the drummers I listed, I merely meant to state those are my favorites in no particular order (with the exception of Brann Dailor at the top...he's supposed to be #1).

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seeing as i'm late to the thread, the go-to option for me would have been keith moon.

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I'm with you Stu, and not to sound old (I'm only 46!), but I'm thinking some of the posters here who are much younger than me (damn near all of them) just don't know about Keith Moon. Hopefully, this is where they do some research and climb on board.
I'm glad to see John Bonham, Bill Bruford and Neil Peart represented.
Stu was also totally right about Charlie Watts being so underrated.
My wild card is Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience).

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Mitch Mitchell is a fabulous addition to these lists.


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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
Mitch Mitchell is a fabulous addition to these lists.



+1

I heard that Moon was high when he recorded, when he played, and every time in between. If he took control of himself and contained the beast (like Peart and Carey do) then the guy typing this might have been the biggest Moon/Who fan ever. I'm not hating, I'm just saying. I personally only like the Who in very limited doses, I'm not a fan so my opinion of their drummer is certainly going to muddied. He played with a lot of heart, or was that something else fueling him?

Wasn't Copeland fired from a band after his time with the Police because they said he sucked? Personally I like what he did with the Police, the excessive high-hat use became his signature but the band made it all work as a whole. My only criticism was that he forced the tempo too fast for his band-mates early on, but the whole band was kind of clumsy back then.

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Yea, Keith Moon needs to be on a top 5 list always.

I still think Neil Peart is the best. The drummer for Iron Maiden is pretty sick too.

Travis Barker is indeed a very good drummer.

John Bonham yes.

I'm not huge into drummers.

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