If you honestly think we would need to trade Vanek, Hodgson, our first, our second, and a prospect to get one player that may or may not be a great player, you're high.

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Well, to go that high in the draft, you'll need to part with a lot, but that seems way too high.

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@TJLuckman550

Yeah, we need to part with a lot. But two first/second line players, a prospect, and two picks? Nowhere near that high. Vanek + our 1st and second would do it.

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+1. vanek, first this year, first or second next year

Vanek is fucking good

Maybe I went overboard a tad bit. What I was saying was, it would take a huge offer for any of the teams with the top 3 draft slots to give up that positioning. I know the Sabres wouldn't do it..... Vanek and a pick is NOTHING!!! Not for prospects that everyone is expect to make an immediate impact to the teams that draft them. That is what the top three players are expect to do. The top three teams will definitely demand more.

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Yes, but Vanek IS an immediate impact. And will be. Those top picks are assumed to be, but may not. Vanek and two picks (1st and second) will provide them with a top line forward, and two prospects, one of which has a decent chance of being good (our eighth). So yes, Vanek, a 1st, and a 2nd are perfectly viable for a top three pick.

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listen, if you dont think the 8th pick + vanek would get a top 3 pick, i have to disagree. but there is no point in moving up for such a dramatic price. you can get a VERY solid player with the 8th pick. a potential franchise guy if you hit the jackpot. otherwise, you are still getting a likely star.

dont forget darcy has acquired a mass of second rounders. you could see a package of those to move up from the 16th spot, or with a vanek or miller to get a good first round pick or player. if the sabres are serious about a rebuild, and it appears they are, there are alot of moves to be made, possibly.

and as much as i love miller, i would be comfortable going with enroth/hackett next year if the need be and it bettered the club long term. but please, darcy. FUCALE!

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I'd definitely use our seconds and Minn's 1st to get up to get Fucale.

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Here's the thing with trading for a high pick. If you trade Vanek and the 8th for a top-3, Vanek only has maybe 5-6 years ahead of him. The player picked in the top 3 has the chance to be one of the best players in the league year-in and year-out. It would take a little bit more than Vanek and the 8th, I think.

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@TJLuckman550

thats where the 8th comes in. the 8th pick has a great potential to produce a star too. maybe not as great as the 3rd, but still a star to build with or around.

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Deep draft. 8th is solid. Said team is getting a 25-40 goal scorer and a top tier playerf for a franchise(hopefully player). It is a pretty even tradeoff. And the way Vanek plays he has more then 5-6 years left in him. He will deflect and snipe 20 goals a year for 6-8 more years

Top 3 isn't a guarantee for a franchise player. It's a decent bet that the player will be a solidified player on your squad, but definitely not a league top player all the time.

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The opportunity is too great for a team not to get a good haul back, though. That's all I'm saying.

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Well trading our team for it makes little sense, too. Top 3 pick could be gotten from trading either Miller or Vanek, and two picks.

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JVR isn't a league superstar, and he was the second overall pick after Patrick Kane.

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True, there is duds and surprises everywhere. Who would of thought a goalie picked 138th would be a star....it does happen. We could not do anything, pick 8th had have the next superstar.... We could pick 3rd, and get a career AHL'er. Its all a crap shoot buuuuuuuut everyone wants to ignore the fact that 10 out of last 13 Stanley Cup winners had a top overall draft pick on their roster, some had more than one. If you don't have a top overall draft pick on your roster there is a damn good chance you will never win the Stanley Cup.

The biggest plus the Sabres have right now is that this draft is so deep. If it was a normal class, I wouldn't be all that excited about being 8th.

If the Sabres stay at 8th, what's the going thought. I know some have the Sabres picking Lindholm.

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Better watch the Memorial Cup, all you folks talking about Fucale. He'll be in the net for Halifax.

Is Xavier LaFlamme playing?

Do you like hotdogs?

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