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Los9090
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:54 am 
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jvaccaro6 wrote:
well as Gm of Sabres nation,

I'm also trading Stafford and Gerbe to Toronto for the services of Ponakarovski, and then sign him in the off season for the 3.1M he'll be asking for.

Huge upgrade over Stafford, will become a rebuilding casualty under Burke.

I don't know about that trade...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:44 pm 
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I've also been wanting to make a move for Sharp. He is a natural RW who plays a lot at C for Chicago. Chicago is looking for a veteran dman and we all know they are in cap trouble at the end of the season. His FO % is 50.7 compared to Roy's 50%, Connelly's 45.2% and Hecht's 45%.
Chicago is trying to work out a deal with Wisniewski who was a highly touted player for the Hawk's before. He is an RFA, so I don't know if Chicago would be able to sign him in the offseason and may not want to trade for him with nothing for sure in return. However, pending how long Getzlaf is out, the Ducks may be more willing to work an offer out sooner than later.
On the other hand, if the Hawks are looking at the bigger picture and want to benefit this year and beyond, the Sabres may be the better trade partner. My thought is to trade one of the Sabres pending UFA dmen. If Chicago is willing to take Lydman, then it works out great, but if they prefer Hank it would take a little more to work out a deal.
Here's a few of my trade options:

Lydman, Staff, Sekera and a 3rd for Sharp and Barker
Salaries close for this year, but Chicago doesn't resign Lydman and have another $3.5m to work with next year.

Tallinder, Rivet, Stafford and Gerbe for Sharp, Versteeg and Barker
This would leave Chicago with three guys returning next year and again free up $3.5m to work with.

Just a couple of ideas. I'm sure they will be shot down by some for one reason or another, but I think Buffalo should definitely try to get Sharp. I can't imagine how hard it actually is to be a GM in the NHL, I could probably come with at least another dozen scenerios.

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it has to be chicago takes less cap than they gain. they are still going to have to take cap, because in this modern era no team named the buffalo sabres wants to be that close to the cap. so UFA's and low paid guys on the roster and prospects. could probably land you sharp.

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psychemedisabrefan wrote:
it has to be chicago takes less cap than they gain. they are still going to have to take cap, because in this modern era no team named the buffalo sabres wants to be that close to the cap. so UFA's and low paid guys on the roster and prospects. could probably land you sharp.


To Buf

Sharp ($1,252,850 remaining this season. 4, 4.1, 4.2 mil a season, 3 seasons)
Versteeg ($990,501 remaining this season. 3.083 mil a season, 2 seasons)

To Chi

Stafford ($610,363 remaining this season. 2.3 mil a season, next season)
MacArthur ($449,741 remaining this season, RFA next season)
Lydman? ($923,575 remaining this season, UFA)
or Tallinder ($823,187 remaining this season, UFA)

So, Buf picks up $2,243,351 worth of salary this season and has 7 mil tied up for atleast 2 more seasons for those 2 players.
Current Buffalo Cap Space: $1,792,475.
Subtract just Stafford and MacArthur combined:
Total cap space available: $2,852,579 (for this season)


Current Chicago Cap Space: $1,065,141
Subtract just Sharp and Versteeg combined:
Total cap space available: $3,308,492

Sharp and Versteeg total: $2,243,351
Stafford and MacArthur total: $1,060,104

2 Options to acquire a rental D man from Buffalo.
Option 1 (Lydman) $923,575 staff and mac - $1,983,679
Option 2 (Tallinder) $823,187 staff and mac - $1,883,291


Both total numbers are lower than Sharp and Versteeg are currently.
Chicago gets the help defensively and is not tied down by salary next season. They get 2 young wingers, Stafford and MacArthur for cheap.

Buf gets 2 potential impact players for a minimum 2 yrs (Sharp for 3).
Throw in a draft pick if needed.


Numbers according to CapGeek.com.

Squanto, check the numbers, but this should work, correct?

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