Exactly Pat.

We need to stop making excuses for this team. They have been mediocre to poor for going on five years now.

Excuses are simply a reason to avoid admitting the obvious flaws in the team from top to bottom.

This isn't just a month or two glitch; this is five years.

Changes should have been made a few years back; let alone this season, and weren't. It seems to be getting worse.

-10 games. Too early to judge on just 10 games.
-20 games, slow start, but it's still early.
-30 games; we pick it up the second half under Lindy; and we've had a lot of injuries.
-40 games. Let the bullshit start flying to explain being at the half way point of the season, and getting worse as a team.

Howie, you realize after 20 games this year we were 12-8-0. For an entire year that is 48-32-0 with two extra games there somewhere.

It really didn't start that badly this year, only after all the injuries happened is when the team stopped stringing wins together or winning regularly.

you do realize that 48-32-0 isnt a great record when 3 point games exist, right? thats 96 points. good enough for a 6th in the conference most years.

Look at the record, I left off two games and factored in no OT games. You're just trying to get me riled up about a stat.

Look at the record, I left off two games and factored in no OT games. You're just trying to get me riled up about a stat.

Even the staunchest fans admitted the team hadn't looked good, despite a reasonably respectable .600 record after 20 games. Their point was it was still early, and we had to give the team time to look better. Well it's no longer early, and it obviously hasn't gotten better.

Please try reading people's posts through, and understanding the gist of what they are saying before you try to pick components of the posts apart.