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ironyisadeadscene
 Post subject: playoff races
PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:40 pm 
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this years playoff races seem very close.

buffalo is 9th in the east, 3 points back with 2 games in hand of 8th place carolina
toronto (yes, the leafs) are in 10th, 4 points back, 0 games in hand (this team is hot)
atlanta is 11th, 5 points back, 0 games in hand (fading though)
florida is on the fringe, and are 12th, 8 points back, 1 game in hand. they cant stay with the other 3.

west is... fuck it, im not typing out that hodgepodge.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/standings

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The West is INSANE. it's like 6 points separating the 3rd team and the 12th team lol

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:09 am 
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I hate to say this but Toronto is 1 back and I just have a feeling that Burke will add a guy or two and make a push.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:52 am 
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I did an analysis of the eastern conference race last sunday for my column on phils blog, I'll post the link since it's relevant.

http://blackbluegold.wordpress.com/2011 ... ble-teams/

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Vulgar Statistics: Eastern Conference Bubble Teams
February 20, 2011
by Alex

As it stands right now in the Eastern Conference there are three teams at the bottom of the playoff pile in Montreal, the New York Rangers, and Carolina, and four teams that are itching to get in and are close enough to pull it off if things go right for them in their next few games, those being Buffalo, Atlanta, Florida, and the shocker of all shockers, Toronto. With the Sabres right there with those teams, I began to wonder how things shaped up for them for the remainder of the season.

I tracked a bunch of different things so the following chart is kind of all over the place. The three basic factors I considered were the bubble teams’ strength of schedule, the breakdown of their games remaining (home, away, back to back, etc.), and their performance so far this season against their remaining opponents including a prediction of their final point total based on those numbers. It doesn’t mean anything, and I’m not saying that things are going to shake out this way at all, but it does provide some illumination for the path ahead for each team.

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The first surprise was how even everyone’s strength of schedule is, though with the number of games left and the parity in the NHL, I probably shouldn’t have been too shocked. There is some fluctuation based on divisional strengths, but by and large no one really has a tougher schedule than anyone else, at least not in terms of their quality of opponents.

When you analyze the games remaining though it becomes a different story. Montreal is traveling a ton, which does not bode well for them as they’re 19-7-6 at home and only 12-14-1 on the road. Meanwhile Carolina has the good fortune of rarely traveling (and they also don’t have any more consecutive road games) away from home where they’re 15-10-2. Both Carolina and Buffalo get shafted in terms of back to back games, and Montreal has the fewest, probably owing largely in part to the number of road games they play. But these are all things you can merely read above.

What’s interesting is the number of games that each team has against top eight opponents, and against other contenders. While Buffalo has the most games against playoff opponents, they also have the most games against other contenders (including three against Carolina) which means they are most in control of their own destiny. A strong schedule is actually a positive here because those are the teams you need to gain ground on, and what better way to do that than to defeat them?

The point prediction is an imperfect science. Montreal has a fantastic record this season against the teams they play, but their road record is awful. Which is going to win out? Plus they have a ton of injuries along their blue-line that will cost them games down the stretch. And on top of everything, there’s the looming trade deadline. But it at least outlines how those teams might fare in the coming weeks.

Final Thoughts:

Obviously I like the prediction column because it has the Sabres making a play for the seventh seed, but I know realistically that the games are played for a reason. Taking a quick look at the schedules my gut tells me the Sabres are going to falter due to the number of playoff teams they face and the number of back to backs they’ll have to endure and I think that the eight teams currently in the playoffs in the east are the ones that will be there come season’s end albeit possibly in a different order. But that won’t stop me from hoping

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Depends on the moves Darcy makes or doesn't make at the trade deadline.

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:11 pm 
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9th sabres 2 points back
10th leafs 4 points back
11th atlanta 6 points back
12th new jersey 9 points back

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:00 pm 
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7th carolina +3
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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:58 pm 
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7 new york +2
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This is a quibble, but shouldn't the Sabre be at 0 if you're measuring how far above or below the surrounding teams are?

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 6:13 pm 
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mechaphil wrote:
This is a quibble, but shouldn't the Sabre be at 0 if you're measuring how far above or below the surrounding teams are?


i thought of that myself.

toronto is also 4 points out, not 2. mah bad.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:37 pm 
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Toronto is going to fall and fall hard this week

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patkane88 wrote:
Toronto is going to fall and fall hard this week

Haha why so

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
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im impressed toronto turned it around like that. i had a feeling they would compete.

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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:41 am 
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Toronto and the Devils have really Played hard in 2011. Both have winng records and can challenge for that 8th spot.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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 Post subject: Re: playoff races
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
patkane88 wrote:
Toronto is going to fall and fall hard this week

Haha why so

Because when he posts, it's only ever about failing, or sucking, or not competing, or not being good enough.

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The Thrashers will need to defeat the Hurricanes in overtime Wednesday night to help us maintain sole possession of eighth. If that happens and we defeat Boston Thursday, we can begin working on breathing room.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:20 pm 
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Sabretooth wrote:
The Thrashers will need to defeat the Hurricanes in overtime Wednesday night to help us maintain sole possession of eighth. If that happens and we defeat Boston Thursday, we can begin working on breathing room.


Thrashers win in oooooovertime? Check
Sabres beat Bruins? To be determined...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:26 pm 
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Ugh, I meant regulation. A win tonight for us will correct that thought.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:37 pm 
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tonight, with alot of teams around the sabres playing, the playoff picture could clear up quite a bit. the sens can even officially be eliminated from post season contention. stuff like that makes me giddy. the deeper the season runs and to see teams getting knocked away, just means the sabres are that much closer.

go isles
go sens
go aves
go bruins (in the offhand chance the sabres catch fire, they can catch the habs easier then the bruins (i could catch some flak for saying go bruins. several posters think im a bruins fan))
go flyers (see above, but put pens in the habs spot.)

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