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Author:  fly as hale [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:32 pm ]
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With the Bills and Sabres troubles, things aren't going so great in Buffalo right now... Buffalonians know too well what it feels like to be down on their luck, but check out this incredible video about Buffalo. It was presented by the Buffalo Niagara Convention & Visitors Bureau and they did a fanstastic job...check it out:
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:10 pm ]
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Great video.
Author:  Yhoshi [ Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:35 pm ]
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Great video.


yes.
Author:  Crosscheck [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:16 am ]
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Fuckin A
Author:  useful fictions [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:03 pm ]
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buffalo mattered. then the centerpiece of our park system was dissected by 198, and then the overabundance of parking lots/ramps started marginalizing the claims of what should be considered great architecture.

mismanagement? perhaps, but i argue that similar things have been done before in many great cities. i'd just chalk it up to human error. we think we matter, then something better comes along.
Author:  Crosscheck [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:37 pm ]
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You must be fun at parties
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:42 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote:
You must be fun at parties


lol
Author:  fly as hale [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:12 pm ]
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Crosscheck wrote:
You must be fun at parties

lol for real
Author:  Yhoshi [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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useful fictions wrote:
buffalo mattered. then the centerpiece of our park system was dissected by 198, and then the overabundance of parking lots/ramps started marginalizing the claims of what should be considered great architecture.

mismanagement? perhaps, but i argue that similar things have been done before in many great cities. i'd just chalk it up to human error. we think we matter, then something better comes along.


partykiller :character-jason: :occasion-partyblower:
Author:  useful fictions [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:01 pm ]
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yeah, i guess so. i love buffalo, but i hate what's been going on with the development and preservation of it for quite some time. i've only been alive 25 years, but buffalo has become the victim of far worse than a loss of industrial/manufacturing jobs as a result of postindustrial development.
Author:  fly as hale [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:08 pm ]
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We all know that... Most people know that. Buffalo is far from perfect and the city has suffered because of that. But this video is supposed to showcase that despite all the hardships and mismanagement this city has faced, there is optimism and uniqueness about this city that we should all be proud of.
Author:  Squanto [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:21 pm ]
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Sometimes it better to appreciate what you have instead of whining about what you don't.

Or you can just be emo about it.

Mistakes have been made in our city. Mistakes have been made in every city. Shit happens.

This is my home. Sometimes it sucks, sometimes stupid shit happens by our planners and politicians. But it's still my home. I love it here. No amount of whining and complaining about mistakes is going to change that.

I love what we have, not what we don't.
Author:  mechaphil [ Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:23 pm ]
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fly as hale wrote:
We all know that... Most people know that. Buffalo is far from perfect and the city has suffered because of that. But this video is supposed to showcase that despite all the hardships and mismanagement this city has faced, there is optimism and uniqueness about this city that we should all be proud of.

+9,001
Author:  useful fictions [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:53 am ]
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i'd love to be happy with things as they are. change isn't started by those who remain content with what they have, unfortunately.
Author:  Squanto [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:01 am ]
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I never said anyone should be content with anything. I said you should be proud of what we have here.

There's a difference.
Author:  useful fictions [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:11 am ]
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i'm not trying to start an argument, because we all share that we don't hate buffalo in common. however, being proud of what there is can be one thing, but suggesting that we don't complain about what we don't have in conjunction with that is close enough to a call for contentment.

aside from that, as much as i love the specific aspects of historical significance that buffalo can lay claim to, there are several times as many cities that i can cite for each single positive attribute i think of regarding buffalo. i mean, cleveland has the rock 'n roll hall of fame, but that doesn't make me care about the significance of that city. i'm just being a snob now, but buffalo's history is very unimpressive, collectively. honestly, rochester really makes a more compelling case for significance in regards to history.
Author:  Squanto [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:20 am ]
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useful fictions wrote:
i'm just being a snob now, but buffalo's history is very unimpressive, collectively. honestly, rochester really makes a more compelling case for significance in regards to history.


Really?

This point is so wrong it's not even worth debating.
Author:  mechaphil [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:32 am ]
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Squanto wrote:
useful fictions wrote:
i'm just being a snob now, but buffalo's history is very unimpressive, collectively. honestly, rochester really makes a more compelling case for significance in regards to history.


Really?

This point is so wrong it's not even worth debating.

You may not, but I will.

Let's hear your more compelling case for Rochester's historically-significant superiority over Buffalo's. I want to read how hard you fall on your face.
Author:  useful fictions [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:55 am ]
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obviously it's subjective, but for a city that was always historically of a much smaller size, rochester has repeatedly outdone buffalo. remember, rochester's peak population has only approached the 330,000 mark while buffalo had broken the 580,000 mark.

ralph waldo emerson, susan b. anthony, emma goldman, kim gordon, george eastman, and by assocation anything related to the latter. architecturally, perhaps i can't justify any historical "superiority", but the general historical significance really outweighs buffalo, especially when relating population throughout history.

maybe buffalo's history can be underrated at times, but this argument is ridiculous. obviously i have no credibility on this forum; i never had any on the other forum either, but the only argument i can see being made is in relation to the geographical location of buffalo, which would work against it in the end.
Author:  fly as hale [ Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:56 am ]
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useful fictions wrote:
i'd love to be happy with things as they are. change isn't started by those who remain content with what they have, unfortunately.

So what are you doing about it?
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