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Author:  PatGreen [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:45 am ]
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maybe my wrestling practices were a little above normal. we were jogging 5-7 miles a day, drilling for an hour, calisthenics for 25, and often sprints for a couple hours. live wrestling, by the way, is probably the most physically exerting sport on the planet. sure, it was only 2-2.5 hours a day, but if you could go 100%, there is almost no comparable exercising. ROTC stuff wasn't that tough, i was permitted to exercise with them a couple times because i asked.

i also had wrestling friends that went in the guard, coast guard, army, navy, and marines. not to mention two uncles that wrestled and went into the air force and marines, respectively, and each one of them said the wrestling practices we had were very similar or more difficult than 90% of the BT they went through.

also please don't think i'm saying that BT is easy. i'm also talking about standard BT, not SEAL, parajumper, Ranger, or Green Beret stuff.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:05 am ]
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I wrestled in HS; it definitely helped me be more prepared, but there's an aspect of boot camp that nothing can get you ready for. You're not allowed to talk to other people standing to your left and right. In boot camp, you've got at least 2 hours of physical training a day, not to mention that you don't get to go sit down and relax and recuperate when you're done. IIRC, we woke up at 5 and didn't "stop" until 9 (obviously stops for meals).

Author:  PatGreen [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:09 am ]
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i was talking about the physical stuff, which is what the question was. not everything else.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:39 am ]
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I still think that there were some days at boot camp that were more physically difficult than any wrestling practice. The only thing wrestling related that was tougher than boot camp was the wrestling camp I went to at Edinboro; those were 4 a day sessions though.

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:18 pm ]
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Do they still have Power Skating Camps?

I attended one many moons ago. Norm DeFelice ran the camp. A couple pros assisted.

Busted my ass for a week. Amazing workout. Amazing results. Took me from a third line player to a first/second line player.

Author:  Displaced Fan [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:45 am ]
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Ran again last night. Mile and a half. Even with this shit in my lungs I wasn't even winded. It was an old feeling being able to get out there and feel good instead of gassed. Just a couple weeks in and running is feeling fun and turning into a great stress reliever again. I've been adding legs presses and some minor upper body work when I get back too.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:32 pm ]
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That's awesome man. I just bought a cyclocross bike (think of a mix between a road bike and mountain bike), and I plan on riding it to/from work as much as possible.

Side note - the seats on expensive bikes suck :(

Author:  Displaced Fan [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:19 pm ]
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I sold my mountain bike before I moved here since it just hung from my garage ceiling while I smoked. I miss it.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:03 pm ]
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I considered a mountain bike, but I really wanted something I could knock out 10-60mi rides on....that just ain't feasible on a mountain bike.

Author:  Stuuuuuuu [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:03 pm ]
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Bump.

Well, I was a final-round pick, but I'm on one of the two expansion teams in the Portland ball hockey league. We played our first game last weekend and lost a heartbreaker 3-2 in the final seconds. Somehow notched an assist, but I need a lot of work on my forecheck and ball-handling skills (luckily I don't mind practicing ball-handling).

Ran 1.86 miles in 15 minutes yesterday. Still in pretty good shape.

Author:  PatGreen [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:38 pm ]
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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
(luckily I don't mind practicing ball-handling).

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Author:  Stuuuuuuu [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:41 pm ]
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So how about some advice hockey players. How do I forecheck aggressively in a non-checking league? And how do I trip and steal the ball without tripping the guy who has it? Or at the least how do I minimize the chance of tripping?

Author:  Wozniak [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:47 pm ]
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lift their stick and forecheck by applying pressure and have an active stick

Author:  Markus [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:57 pm ]
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Stuuuuuuu wrote:
So how about some advice hockey players. How do I forecheck aggressively in a non-checking league? And how do I trip and steal the ball without tripping the guy who has it? Or at the least how do I minimize the chance of tripping?


To my experience, most ball hockey leagues have had very limited contact. However, they cannot fault you for being the first one to the ball in dump and chases, if their happens to be contact, not your fault. If they already retain possession of the ball, charge at them like you will hit them. Regardless of the fact that you won't, player's hockey instincts still kick in and they make a quicker player than originally planned.

To my experience there can still be a intimidation aspect to non-checking ball hockey leagues. Use the boards/walls/net and apply some force to retain possession of the ball.

Author:  Stuuuuuuu [ Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:26 pm ]
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Update:

Won our second game 4-2, against the defending league champions, who scored 9 goals their first game! Definitely liking winning more than losing. Heart and lungs have been up to the test so far, though I am not playing a ton of minutes. But when you only have nine on your team, you're still gonna see a lot of time as a sub.

Here's my question to the gym rats here: what do you think are the best exercises to strengthen the obliques/sides? If there's any part of my body that still isn't up to the task, it's my torso-twisting muscles.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:39 am ]
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Obvious/sarcastic answer: Do more torso twisting exercises.

A little more useful: Get a medicine ball. Do the circuit below (20 reps per exercise, only do one round if it's a warm-up, if it's a workout, do 4 rounds, 90 sec rest between rounds). Also - do not neglect your lower back, it plays a huge role in supporting your body; if you can, check out something like Insanity Asylum's "Back to Core" video.

The circuit:

Big Circle

Begin holding med ball above head. Move arms in a circle like the arm of a clock.

Wood Chopper

With knees slightly flexed and ball overhead, chop ball between legs, then back up again

Side-to-Side Throw

Face wall holding med ball to side
Rotate body to throw ball to wall
Catch ball on the opposite side and repeat on that side

Overhead Throw

Throw ball at wall in chopping motion.

Rocky Solo

Sit upright with legs straight out
Rotate with ball to right and set ball behind you
Turn to the left,, pick up ball and repeat

Split Leg Overhead Throw

Stand facing wall with ball overhead and feet spread apart
Throw ball at wall in chopping motion

45-Degree Twist

Sit down with feet slightly off the ground
Lean back at a 45-degree angle
Twist with ball to each side

Chest Pass

Face wall with knees flexed and stomach tightened
Throw med ball from chest into wall
Catch and repeat

Coaching Point: If a drill is a directional one, remember to repeat the exercise on the opposite side.

Sit-up Throw

Lie down with knees bent, feet flat on ground
Holding ball, sit up and throw it into wall
Catch and repeat

Toe Touch

Lie on back with legs straight in the air and med ball over head
Sit up and touch ball to toes

Author:  Stuuuuuuu [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:04 pm ]
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Thanks. I'll try as much of that as I can. My gym has signs everywhere that say "Neither this, nor any wall in this facility may be used to throw medicine balls on".

Author:  NYIntensity [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:45 pm ]
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Do you have a partner? If not, instead of throwing against the wall, when you reach the pinnacle of the exercise, toss the ball in the air, catch it, and go back down.

Author:  NYIntensity [ Thu May 03, 2012 7:56 pm ]
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So AudSabres and I have been tracking our workouts on a site called dailymile.com; if any of you guys want to add me on there, PM me, (if you don't already know my name). It's good to have goals and see friends continuing to work out; you know that if you don't post something at least every other day, you're gonna catch some flak for it.

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