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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:57 am 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/2 ... 39511.html

I chose a link to one of the more liberal websites, with critical quotes from Democrats (except Pelosi, of course). What I find interesting is that this happened a week ago and there hasn't been any mention of it here. Right after the thread from SATW about Stewart and Colbert's thing, Colbert makes a mockery of Congress (as if they need any help), embarrases himself and was absolutely NOT funny in the process.

Whatever Colbert's opinion on the matter, it was lost through his ill-timed and ill-humored rant. Supporters like the nut job from California that invited him in the first place thought (more like disingenuously argued) that Colbert's media status would bring more attention to an important topic. Instead, he drowned out the issue with really bad jokes...great job.

That was NOT what Dems needed to salvage any hope of success in November.


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I dispute that Colbert made a mockery of Congress. Direct your anger towards Rep. Lofgren, who asked him to come in the first place. When there was some objections to his presence, Colbert offered to leave the room, and was asked to stay.

I don't recall all this consternation when Rep. Duke Cunningham got someone in a fucking Elmo costume to come talk about music education back in 02. That's even stupider.


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Squanto wrote:
I dispute that Colbert made a mockery of Congress. Direct your anger towards Rep. Lofgren, who asked him to come in the first place. When there was some objections to his presence, Colbert offered to leave the room, and was asked to stay.

I don't recall all this consternation when Rep. Duke Cunningham got someone in a fucking Elmo costume to come talk about music education back in 02. That's even stupider.


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I watched parts of it, and thought he was hilarious with some of the comments he made.

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Squanto wrote:
I dispute that Colbert made a mockery of Congress. Direct your anger towards Rep. Lofgren, who asked him to come in the first place. When there was some objections to his presence, Colbert offered to leave the room, and was asked to stay.

I don't recall all this consternation when Rep. Duke Cunningham got someone in a fucking Elmo costume to come talk about music education back in 02. That's even stupider.


I did direct anger towards her (the "nut job from California"). And yes, he made an undisputed mockery of a congressional hearing and himself. He offered a reasonable written statement ahead of time knowing that he was going to go off into far left field in character. At least if he was going to make jokes in that setting, he could have been funny, but he failed miserably at that too. Colbert didn't offer to leave the room either, he said he would only if Lofgren asked him, that was a refusal knowing that she would object to the request.

As for the consternation about Elmo, I don't remember that, and we weren't posting on the Junkie back then either. I'll take your word for it that it was a stupid exhibition of retardedness though.

One way or the other, Colbert took away from the issue by becoming the story. I know this was a poor and predictable result, and I don't even pretend to be a sometimes funny comedian journalist mocking as a stiff republican. Colbert should know better.


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The comments were funny (sometimes) and on topic (sometimes). That being said, I was really hoping for something a little more substantive.

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Although you may not have found his humor funny, he brought up some great points wrapped up in his humor, as he tends to do.

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This brief experience gave me some small understanding why so few Americans are clamoring to begin an exciting career as a seasonal migrant field worker. So what's the answer? Now I'm a free market guy, normally, I would leave this to the invisible hand of the market but the invisible hand of the market has already moved over eighty four thousand acres of production for twenty two thousand farm jobs to Mexico and shut down over a million acres of U.S. farmland due to a lack of available labor - because, apparently, even the invisible hand doesn't want to pick beans.

Now I'm not a fan of the government doing anything, nut I've gotta ask, why isn't the government doing anything? Maybe this ad-jobs bill would help, I don't know, like most members of congress - I haven't read it. But maybe we could offer more visas to the immigrants, who let's face it, will probably be doing these jobs anyway and this improved legal status might allow immigrants recourse if they are abused. And it just stands to reason to me that if your co worker can't be exploited, that you are less likely to be exploited yourself and that, in itself, might improve pay and working conditions on these farms - and Americans may consider taking these jobs again.


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I like talking about people who don't have any power...I feel the need to speak for those who can't speak for themselves....We ask them to come and work, and then we ask them to leave again. They suffer, and have no rights.


Would I have had Colbert there in character? Hell no. Did he at least make salient points about the topic at hand? Absolutely. It was no more a mockery than the Goldman Sachs execs sitting there flat out lying about their part in the financial crisis.

At least Colbert was honest.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:43 pm 
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Congress doesn't get a damn thing accomplished anyway so I'm not too worried about Colbert "wasting" their time. I mean we're talking about a group of dirty bastards that are more concerned about meeting their debt to special interest groups than spending time worrying about what is best for the country or it's people. Fuck 'em.

And as for Colbert....I thought some parts were pretty funny.

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The only part of Colbert's testimony that the members of Congress laughed at was the line to the effect of "I'm sure you members of congress will work together to do what is best for the American people regarding this matter." Even they know they're a goddamned disgrace. I'm sure the five whole minutes devoted to this didn't completely derail anything of substance.

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I caught bits and pieces of it on The Rachel Maddow Show, and thought it was pretty decent. Colbert better watch himself though, with the Tea Party and people like Ken Buck and Christine O'Donnel, he's going to look like a liberal in a few years.

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Rud wrote:
The only part of Colbert's testimony that the members of Congress laughed at was the line to the effect of "I'm sure you members of congress will work together to do what is best for the American people regarding this matter."

lol I know... I think Jon Stewart said, "It's funny because it's sad."

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