I personally would rather such things not be done rather than just ensure that I don't know about them to not judge.

I'll give an extreme example, but one I think makes the point well.

Had the Holocaust never been uncovered, would it have been ok since nobody knew about it?

sometimes the extreme is all it takes

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PSA: I am an overly sarcastic person. If you take me at my word, then i will most likely anger and offend you.

The old Holocaust trick. Always ends a debate.

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- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

My philosophy professor in college dropped that one on us out of the blue halfway through the semester. Some of the responses had my head spinning for weeks.

(I liked that class more than I'll usually admit publicly.)

Ya, but the Jews weren't real nice to them either, so they took the gloves off on them.

/total sarcasm, but some people's posts sound like this.

That's not perspective....

Chance of avoiding or preventing a lightning strike? 0
Chance of avoiding or preventing a terrorist attack on an airline? Depends who's in charge and how highly it's prioritized (El Al can fill you in on such matters).

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+1, except don't tell the media because they might shit themselves...

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Rick Jeanerette after Marty Biron's diving save back in 2000.

"I'm going to go to the spa and have a hot tub and massage and relax," Miller said. "That's it, and it's back to work tomorrow." Ryan Miller after clinching the North East division.

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- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

I honestly don't even know who you're arguing with Zilla.

Who the hell is talking about turning our constitution over?

Did I say torture the guy? no.
Did I say kill him? no.
Did I say take his lawyer away? no.

This thread is about giving this terrorist asshole a plea bargain. You seem to think that's a great idea and it will keep us safer.
You're trying to downplay what he attempted to do. Why?

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Don't be hasty, Cross.

They said they're going to look into a plea bargain.

That could involve obtaining intelligence, or it could involve sending him to jail even more quickly than they otherwise would have been able to.

That's assuming that it's the route that they're actually going to take.

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Wheelhouse

No, they said they're going to pursue it, not look into it.

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"Go out and run 'em."
- Lindy Ruff, 23 Feb. 2007

I'm highly skeptical of whatever information they may be able to get out of him.

We already knew about him. We know who planned it, we know where it was planned.
He hasn't even been fully charged yet and the investigation is still ongoing....why would the White House come out in public and say we're giving him a plea deal???

It makes zero sense.

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The reason for them to come out and say that is because this administration is all about looking like they treat everyone fairly and by the the way of our justice system. The sad thing is, our justice system is flawed and these terrorists will take full advantage of it. Plea agreements are a fact of life in our over-worked, under paid justice system. You can use them to extract information out of defendants but I, like you xcheck, do not and will never believe a terrorist. I have a hard time believing any criminal, let alone a terrorist who has had extensive mental conditioning....

Understand this, the government can not always protect us from these extremists. They are blatantly showing us how vulnerable we are. They WILL commit some sort of terror on our soil again someday. They have the will, they are just perfecting the way....

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