exactly. and the sad thing is that the ron paul movement was actually gaining momentum. i think i saw jeremy say on facebook that the OKC comment lost him (but i wont speak for him) and jeremy was a very staunch paul backer.

ive considered writing in barney frank. but at the end of the day, in order to cancel out the crazy that will be the GOP nominee, i guess i have to vote out of fear and go obama again.

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It wasn't the OKC thing that "lost" me; I would still probably vote for Paul. My loss of faith is much more based on the fact that all of these newsletters are ammo against him, and while Romney and Gingrich are corrupt as a 15 year old hard drive, they don't have dirt like this.

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i'm leaning Nader. He's always been my fallback.

Did anyone actually read the newsletters? Does anyone take into consideration that Paul receives more votes from minorities than any other candidate in the GOP?

The media is taking these newsletters and turning them into something they're not. For example, here's what the national media quoted:

"...I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in [Washington DC] are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

The FULL quote:

"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

He was referring to the PREJUDICE against minorities in America's court systems, and how there's a much higher incarceration rate for minorities in DC than there are for whites who commit the same crimes. He was speaking out FOR minorities.

It's all bull shit. Paul is not a racist. He's the only guy out of all the candidates that would have vetoed NDAA. He's the guy that wants to let you to keep the money you've earned. He's the guy that wants to simplify economics and stop allowing the government to artificially fluctuate what happens to free markets, so as banksters and professional investors can't take advantage of every day Americans.

Simply put, he's the only candidate who's really looking out for your best interests. It's too bad more people don't see that.

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But will he blend?

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

Wow man. You laid that out really well. Thank you.

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Have you actually read his newsletters? If so, can you post a copy? I'd love to see exactly what it says, and not have to rely on posted internet snippets.

http://money.msn.com/investing/will-ron-paul-onomics-beat-obama-mirhaydari.aspx

Good read.

Um...PSP...try again:
http://www.mrdestructo.com/2011/12/ron-paul-political-report-special-issue.html

You can read some of the letters straight from that site, or follow the author's many other links. Page two of the newsletter should dispell the notion of quotes being taken "out of conext" for anyone who wants to cut to the chase, but I encourage a full reading.

see last post

A New Republic article from 2008 that I have seen repeatedly cited as a good source:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950362/posts

Jesus Ron, spend more than $99 on a suit for fucks sake...

lol not his style. Never has been. I don't mind it. Ideas are more important than looking good.

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Well, it shows an out-of-touchness which apparently he will never understand. While on stage in front of the country, trying to get them to vote for you, wear a suit that doesnt look like an older sibling handed it down to you. If he cant pay attention to a detail like that, or like who authored his newsletters and whatever horrible shit they said, well...that doesnt bode well for someone who wants to run our country.

I hope to one day live in a society that cares more about the protection of the constitution and our liberties than the clothes someone wears.

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I would run in a bathrobe. After being elected I would disrobe and Party Boy in an elephant thong. Get that trunk swinging around for all to see.

Jesus PSP, is that really what you took from what I said? That I care more about his clothes than 'protection of the consitution'? Because that would be pretty obnoxious of you to put such retarded words in my mouth.

Also, are you going to reply to that statement you made of "Have you guys actually READ the newsletters? theres nothing racist in them!" because you were so completely wrong about that, and yet you acted like we're all totally irresponsible/delusional for discussing this without having the actual newsletters in front of us.

That one "racial crisis special" was just one issue of YEARS of that kind of shit that was put out under his name. I know it sucks to have your heroes torn down in your eyes (I idolized Joe Paterno growing up and that was a real tough one for me), but that is just toatlly unacceptable.

Honestly though, as messed up as those newsletters are, in my eyes they still utterly pale in comparison to say, getting us into situations like Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd rather have a bigoted president who doesnt spend 1.2 trillion on wars, than the most politically correct dude who gets us involved in crap like this.