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 Post subject: Re: If not Ron, who?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:24 pm 
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Jesus Ron, spend more than $99 on a suit for fucks sake...


lol not his style. Never has been. I don't mind it. Ideas are more important than looking good.



Well, it shows an out-of-touchness which apparently he will never understand. While on stage in front of the country, trying to get them to vote for you, wear a suit that doesnt look like an older sibling handed it down to you. If he cant pay attention to a detail like that, or like who authored his newsletters and whatever horrible shit they said, well...that doesnt bode well for someone who wants to run our country.


I hope to one day live in a society that cares more about the protection of the constitution and our liberties than the clothes someone wears.


Jesus PSP, is that really what you took from what I said? That I care more about his clothes than 'protection of the consitution'? Because that would be pretty obnoxious of you to put such retarded words in my mouth.

Also, are you going to reply to that statement you made of "Have you guys actually READ the newsletters? theres nothing racist in them!" because you were so completely wrong about that, and yet you acted like we're all totally irresponsible/delusional for discussing this without having the actual newsletters in front of us.


Easyyy. I wasn't referring to you. You referred to him being out of touch with the American PUBLIC for not wearing nice suits. I was referring to the thousands upon millions of voters who vote for a President because of their swagger. Should have been more clear. I apologize.

I also wasn't wrong about those newsletters. Paul wasn't generalizing all African Americans in that newsletter. The LA riots were racially motivated. The interviews of the guys who went to jail specifically talked about how they wanted to pull every white man who drive by out of their vehicle to beat the shit out of them.

My point is, while a couple of newsletters may seem racist, Paul's record proves that he's NOT a racist. The newsletter in which he speaks about the unfairness of the justice system towards minorities is a perfect example of that. He's the guy who wants to empower everyone in this country to live the lives that they desire without interference from the Federal government. Not sure what else I can say about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:32 pm 
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We make a big deal about Ron Paul being a racist bigot over a few questionable sentences but Newt Gingrich can tell all black people to get a job. >.<

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:53 pm 
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
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Jesus Ron, spend more than $99 on a suit for fucks sake...


lol not his style. Never has been. I don't mind it. Ideas are more important than looking good.



Well, it shows an out-of-touchness which apparently he will never understand. While on stage in front of the country, trying to get them to vote for you, wear a suit that doesnt look like an older sibling handed it down to you. If he cant pay attention to a detail like that, or like who authored his newsletters and whatever horrible shit they said, well...that doesnt bode well for someone who wants to run our country.


I hope to one day live in a society that cares more about the protection of the constitution and our liberties than the clothes someone wears.


Jesus PSP, is that really what you took from what I said? That I care more about his clothes than 'protection of the consitution'? Because that would be pretty obnoxious of you to put such retarded words in my mouth.

Also, are you going to reply to that statement you made of "Have you guys actually READ the newsletters? theres nothing racist in them!" because you were so completely wrong about that, and yet you acted like we're all totally irresponsible/delusional for discussing this without having the actual newsletters in front of us.


Easyyy. I wasn't referring to you. You referred to him being out of touch with the American PUBLIC for not wearing nice suits. I was referring to the thousands upon millions of voters who vote for a President because of their swagger. Should have been more clear. I apologize.

I also wasn't wrong about those newsletters. Paul wasn't generalizing all African Americans in that newsletter. The LA riots were racially motivated. The interviews of the guys who went to jail specifically talked about how they wanted to pull every white man who drive by out of their vehicle to beat the shit out of them.

My point is, while a couple of newsletters may seem racist, Paul's record proves that he's NOT a racist. The newsletter in which he speaks about the unfairness of the justice system towards minorities is a perfect example of that. He's the guy who wants to empower everyone in this country to live the lives that they desire without interference from the Federal government. Not sure what else I can say about it.

Sounds like you're on quite a trip down a river in Egypt. Again, did you READ more than a sentence or two? Like where the author says that the black community is taught to hate whites? No, no generalizations there. Have fun on the Nile.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:01 pm 
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Quotes:
"The black leadership indoctrinates its followers with phony history and phony theory to bolster its claims of victimology" Translation: "blacks exagerate the past to milk the welfare system

"As children they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills"

"The cause of the riots is plain: barbarism. If the barbarians cannot loot sufficiently through legal channels (i.e. the riots being the welfare state minus the middleman) they resort to illegal ones, to terrorism."

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:25 pm 
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I actually believe there are instances where each of those quotes are true. But, you've proven time and again that you're more willing to give people the benefit of doubt. I've seen too much with my own two eyes to know better.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:28 pm 
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I actually believe there are instances where each of those quotes are true. But, you've proven time and again that you're more willing to give people the benefit of doubt. I've seen too much with my own two eyes to know better.

Oh please, enlighten me on how the black race is taught to suck the life-blood out of us hard-working Anglos. It seems I haven't dealt with them as much as you and am ignorant.


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We make a big deal about Ron Paul being a racist bigot over a few questionable sentences but Newt Gingrich can tell all black people to get a job. >.<


Seriously.

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Sounds like you're on quite a trip down a river in Egypt. Again, did you READ more than a sentence or two? Like where the author says that the black community is taught to hate whites? No, no generalizations there. Have fun on the Nile.


Again, he wasn't referring to blacks as a whole. He was referring to the ones that were beating every single white person they could find in the streets of LA. You have to take it in context with the article.

I'd also point to the fact that he's come to the defense of minorities many times. So how exactly can you call him a racist? He isn't. Those articles may have sounded that way, but there are other examples of him being the exact opposite way.

Funny how caucasians can sit here and rip on the guy for his racist articles while the minorities in this country give him more support than any other candidate in the GOP.

Of course, it's a great distraction for people to get worked up about. The current establishment would rather have you talking about that instead of the fact that he and his son Rand were doing everything they possibly could to prevent the passage of NDAA with the indefinite detention of American Citizen clauses in it.

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 Post subject: Re: If not Ron, who?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:39 pm 
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I actually believe there are instances where each of those quotes are true. But, you've proven time and again that you're more willing to give people the benefit of doubt. I've seen too much with my own two eyes to know better.

Oh please, enlighten me on how the black race is taught to suck the life-blood out of us hard-working Anglos. It seems I haven't dealt with them as much as you and am ignorant.


I said there are INSTANCES where they're true. Walk through the east side of Rochester.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:44 pm 
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NYIntensity wrote:
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I actually believe there are instances where each of those quotes are true. But, you've proven time and again that you're more willing to give people the benefit of doubt. I've seen too much with my own two eyes to know better.

Oh please, enlighten me on how the black race is taught to suck the life-blood out of us hard-working Anglos. It seems I haven't dealt with them as much as you and am ignorant.


I said there are INSTANCES where they're true. Walk through the east side of Rochester.


still, not a smart thing for a "presidential candidate" to say.

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At the time (like during the LA riots), he was calling it like he saw it. A bunch of assholes looting and acting barbaric. It's not his fault they were also predominantly black.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:56 pm 
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NYIntensity wrote:
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I actually believe there are instances where each of those quotes are true. But, you've proven time and again that you're more willing to give people the benefit of doubt. I've seen too much with my own two eyes to know better.

Oh please, enlighten me on how the black race is taught to suck the life-blood out of us hard-working Anglos. It seems I haven't dealt with them as much as you and am ignorant.


I said there are INSTANCES where they're true. Walk through the east side of Rochester.

Of course there are instances where they're true. There are white people who leach off society too, but I don't hear you saying that or making generalizations on the race based on those instances. Yet you feel no problem judging blacks as a whole based on isolated instances. I don't hear you talking about how whites are taught to hate blacks either, but a lot clearly are, maybe you were. Again if you were brought up that way, it doesn't mean everyone was, it's just a generalization.


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