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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Haliburton is evil |
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| Author: | nnyfan [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Ahhhh....the good ole double standard hard at work! |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Yup, unlimited corporate donations won't hurt politics at all... This is another dumb move by the Obama administration, further showing that the promised for "change" has yet to materialize. I could live with this easier if I knew there was real healthcare reform coming down the pike, you know, I could handle a foreign policy that appeases hawks in exchange for a seriously ambitious domestic program, a la LBJ. But I would have to say that one year in, this administration appears to be another Clinton administration: content on handing the reigns of power to corporate power in order to not ruffle the feathers of possible donors who could help them cling to power. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
If were lucky it'll be another Clinton Administration. What was Clinton doing in 1993 to piss off the country so much?...Oh yeah...letting his wife talk on and on about health care reform. |
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| Author: | End The Curse [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Stuuuuuuu wrote: Yup, unlimited corporate donations won't hurt politics at all... This is another dumb move by the Obama administration, further showing that the promised for "change" has yet to materialize. I could live with this easier if I knew there was real healthcare reform coming down the pike, you know, I could handle a foreign policy that appeases hawks in exchange for a seriously ambitious domestic program, a la LBJ. But I would have to say that one year in, this administration appears to be another Clinton administration: content on handing the reigns of power to corporate power in order to not ruffle the feathers of possible donors who could help them cling to power. Stu'uuu looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and it was impossible to tell which was which. Yet, a Sabres game awaits - and so does beer - thus, the story still has a happy ending down here on the farm. 
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
End The Curse wrote: Stuuuuuuu wrote: Yup, unlimited corporate donations won't hurt politics at all... This is another dumb move by the Obama administration, further showing that the promised for "change" has yet to materialize. I could live with this easier if I knew there was real healthcare reform coming down the pike, you know, I could handle a foreign policy that appeases hawks in exchange for a seriously ambitious domestic program, a la LBJ. But I would have to say that one year in, this administration appears to be another Clinton administration: content on handing the reigns of power to corporate power in order to not ruffle the feathers of possible donors who could help them cling to power. Stu'uuu looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and it was impossible to tell which was which. Yet, a Sabres game awaits - and so does beer - thus, the story still has a happy ending down here on the farm. Good post. Where has this been the last two years? |
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Some things never seem to change.  This is a 19th c. cartoon by Thomas Nast (the father of American political cartoons) showing the real power behind the Senate was the money of big business (they called them Trusts in those days). I guess the difference is that I can call this move by the Obama Adminstration bullshit, but you only seem to be interesed, Cross, because it is a Democrat doing it. I recall you defending Halliburton when the Cheney Administration was doing it. Wrong is wrong, Republican or Democrat. This is small potatoes compared to what the Cheney Crime Family did, but it is still wrong. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
I've never had a problem with no-bid contracts...a lot of the time it's the quickest way to get an important job done. I only point this incident out because it was a god damned war cry for folks on the left for the since 2003. Well that and the fact that Obama specifically campaigned against this practice. Your subdued outrage is duly noted. 
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Crosscheck wrote: I've never had a problem with no-bid contracts...a lot of the time it's the quickest way to get an important job done. I only point this incident out because it was a god damned war cry for folks on the left for the since 2003. Well that and the fact that Obama specifically campaigned against this practice. Your subdued outrage is duly noted. There are other things that I am far more pissed off at the Democrats for, which I have been far less subdued about. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Godzilla1960 wrote: There are other things that I am far more pissed off at the Democrats for, which I have been far less subdued about. Well, congress aside, this one is Obama specific and it's right in your face cronyism. Campaign dollars = no-bid contract This is exactly what was making people foam at the mouth over GW and Cheney. |
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| Author: | daz28 [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Thank god for fox news. Without them the world would be so much more partisan and unfair. |
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| Author: | nnyfan [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
daz28 wrote: Thank god for fox news. Without them the world would be so much more partisan and unfair. I don't know if this was said in sarcasm or not, but Foxnews DOES help to balance things out. They ARE far right. Those that are far left have CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC. etc...Those of us that are right thinkers in politics have a right to have at least one network, don't we? And, they bring up the things that the left want to bury so as not to desparage their prodigal son or their agendas. |
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
nnyfan wrote: daz28 wrote: Thank god for fox news. Without them the world would be so much more partisan and unfair. I don't know if this was said in sarcasm or not, but Foxnews DOES help to balance things out. They ARE far right. Those that are far left have CNN, PMSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC. etc...Those of us that are right thinkers in politics have a right to have at least one network, don't we? And, they bring up the things that the left want to bury so as not to desparage their prodigal son or their agendas. As someone who is far to the left I take issue with your characterization of CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC being far left. MSNBC? Well, you have a case there. The others only seem far to the left to those who are so far to the right that they have practically fallen off the cliff.
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| Author: | Squanto [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
I don't think any news network should have a political leaning and yet still try to call themselves a new organization. However, that's the world we live in. Fox News is the most egregious of the partisans. no other 'news' network actively campaigns for candidates. Fox does. The vast majority of the Tea Party movement exists because of the airtime that it got on Fox. The Scott Brown election was more of the same. It's also been shown time and time again how the Fox Noise Echo Chamber works. - Anchor on news programming make a comment about a story. - When opinion and commentary shows come on, they repeat that news blurb, injecting Republican talking points and their own opinions into the dicussion. - Story starts to circulate on the ticker, with the opinion show comments mixed in. - Anchors on news programming start reporting on the 'outrage and concern' coming out about the story, ignoring the fact that it's their own staff showing the 'outrage and concern'. - Opinion shows keep running with the story, now commenting on the 'national news exposure' that it's getting. I won't deny that other networks do this to a point as well, but nobody does it as open and blatantly as Fox. Having a left leaning whipping boy on staff of select shows doesn't constitute 'Fair and Balanced'. They also have a nice habit of messing up party designations when it suits them. When a Republican happens to do something embarrassing, somehow that (R) by their name changes to a (D) when shown on Fox. It's happened far too many times, and with too much regularity to be passed off as an accident. Gone are the days of Cronkite where the news was reported, and people were allowed to decide for themselves what it meant, and how they should feel about it. Now you're told what the news is from a partisan viewpoint, and also what you should think about it. |
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| Author: | nnyfan [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Squanto...I agree with you. Fox is definitely not fair and balanced....but it does make the media as a whole more balanced. I bet the other news channels woudn't even have given the tea parties any air time at all...but both sides are necessary to keep a check and balance on each other. I didn't know that Fox switches Rs to Ds. Interesting to know. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Any cable news organization can be as biased as they want to be IMO...people have to pay for access to that content. Broadcast news organizations should be held to a much higher standard. |
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| Author: | daz28 [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
nnyfan wrote: Fox is definitely not fair and balanced My only point is their hypocrisy. If they meant "fair and balanced" because they are balancing the right and left, then I misunderstood them. I also think Squanto is right. If they consider themselves "reporters", then any slant left/right is wrong. If they want to call their reporting 'partisan political banter', then so be it. That goes for all of them, not just fox. If they really think Obama was wrong here, then they should be hanging Cheney by his balls. By not doing this, they are basically admitting they are NOT fair and balanced(which we all knew anyways). |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
daz28 wrote: If they really think Obama was wrong here, then they should be hanging Cheney by his balls. By not doing this, they are basically admitting they are NOT fair and balanced(which we all knew anyways). If you're a politician...and you run on a platform that says "I'm definitely going to stop the practice of X when I get elected", be prepared to get called on it when you do X. I don't think Fox News has much to do with this story other than pointing out that Obama broke a campaign pledge. The story qualifies as news, yes? Where else do you see it reported? |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
I have no problem with Fox News reporting this story. Obama said he wanted this to stop, and it didn't. That should be pointed out. However, I want to see Fox News break such a story when a Republican does something unflattering. They usually don't. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Haliburton is evil |
Squanto wrote: However, I want to see Fox News break such a story when a Republican does something unflattering. They usually don't. So you must be equally offended that CNN and MSNBC etc. are silent on this front. Same thing, no? This'll get your blood pressure up Poll: Fox News most trusted news network Fox News #1 cable network last week <-- not #1 cable news network, the #1 cable network. Edging out USA network. |
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