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| Author: | Wozniak [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 3:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
http://www.livescience.com/culture/obama-anti-christ-100325.html haha, its hilariously retarded |
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| Author: | Van_Da_Man [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
This just in, 14% of americans should never be allowed to vote again... |
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| Author: | slesh [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
Oh let the jokes fly. I've already heard some, "Close the borders now before more wing nuts get in", " What borders", "Why, the borders of the conservative midwest of course" Thats just one I've heard in the last 2 weeks. That represents the left leaning view, there are right leaning views as well. The socialist thing, Texas should split from the U.S. now.........and it goes on and on. The point is, both extreme sides have very slanted views of this person or politician or group and the other. I just sit back and watch the humor flow. I will say this though, I deal with a great deal of people in the midwest for wind farms and the southwest for solar facilities, I can tell you some of them fill up my email box with jokes and shit against the president, were not talking about policy views here. These are personal attacks on the President. Let me give you an example of the flow of mis information these people actually believe. Q: Did Oliver North warn Al Gore about Osama bin Laden at Senate hearings in 1987? A: This ridiculous hoax has been circulating since 2001, even though the secretary of the U.S. Senate and North himself have debunked it. FULL QUESTION To the editor, I’ve gotten this e-mail more than once. Is it true? The durability of this falsehood is remarkable. North himself debunked it publicly more than seven years ago, and it has been proven false again and again. Yet gullible people keep it going year after year. North is a former Reagan White House national security aide and longtime conservative celebrity. The claim that he warned a congressional committee about bin Laden in 1987 is false on several counts. It isn’t historically plausible, for one thing. Bin Laden didn’t form al Qaeda until the year following North’s testimony. In 1987 bin Laden was still fighting Soviet troops occupying Afghanistan, with the support of the United States. Furthermore, then-Sen. Al Gore of Tennessee was not even a member of the congressional panel that grilled North during those 1987 televised hearings into the Iran-Contra affair. The full membership of the Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition is listed on page V of the final report, and Gore is not among them. It’s true that North defended having the security system installed at his home by saying his life had been threatened – but not by bin Laden. The U.S. secretary of the Senate summed it up in this item posted years ago in the "reference desk" section of the Senate’s official Web site: Is it true that . . . Oliver North said during the 1987 Iran-Contra hearings that Osama bin Laden had threatened his life? The answer is no. This Internet hoax says that under questioning from an unidentified senator, Col. Oliver North said he had a home security system installed because a terrorist had threatened him and his family. When asked who this terrorist was, Col. North said it was Osama bin Laden. The facts: Oliver North testified about a home security system during a July 7, 1987 joint Senate-House hearing on the Iran-Contra investigation. The questioner was not a senator, but committee counsel John Nields. Col. North testified the security system was installed because threats were made on his life by terrorist Abu Nidal. The reason I point this out is simple. In conversation after conversation I've had in the last year in a half with conservatives, a majority of them point to this and state how great the Republicans are at protecting the nation and that Democrats have never succeeded in doing so. And the list goes on......... But the point is, 90% or more of the over 500 people from the midwest I've dealt with acually believe this crap. |
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| Author: | CriminallyVu1gar [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
I think I recall reading there that it was an internet poll too. To me, that in itself explains much of it. It is way easier to check a box with an absurd answer (tons of us do it here with sabres polls), than it is to tell someone in person or over the phone some BS that's going to make them think you're an idiot. |
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| Author: | Captain Pants [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
i think its hilarious in itself that americans are so brainwashed that socialism is seen as a bad thing |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
The fact that people can have different opinions is a strength of our democracy. The fact that there are people on both sides who assume anyone that disagrees with their worldview is some kind of anti-American scumbag weakens our democracy. Both sides are guilty of this, although I think it's safe to say that it's a tactic that the far right uses more often than the far left. |
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| Author: | slesh [ Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
Squanto wrote: The fact that people can have different opinions is a strength of our democracy. The fact that there are people on both sides who assume anyone that disagrees with their worldview is some kind of anti-American scumbag weakens our democracy. Both sides are guilty of this, although I think it's safe to say that it's a tactic that the far right uses more often than the far left. Completely agree Squanto. I was a registered Republican from 88 to 2000. It was in that year that I removed myself from the party and went independent. The reason was simple, the views of some of the people in that party, through the 90's up to Bush's election in 2000 was just sliding further into the abyss. I actually heard colleagues of mine actually admit that the Supreme Court took the election from Gore and they were happy, hell, estatic about it. Thats what drove me away, I like the idea of fiscal sanity, thats why I was a republican, but when people I respected actually turned away from the rule of law and fairness, I couldn't stomach it, so I left the scene. |
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| Author: | daz28 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
slesh wrote: Squanto wrote: The fact that people can have different opinions is a strength of our democracy. The fact that there are people on both sides who assume anyone that disagrees with their worldview is some kind of anti-American scumbag weakens our democracy. Both sides are guilty of this, although I think it's safe to say that it's a tactic that the far right uses more often than the far left. Completely agree Squanto. I was a registered Republican from 88 to 2000. It was in that year that I removed myself from the party and went independent. The reason was simple, the views of some of the people in that party, through the 90's up to Bush's election in 2000 was just sliding further into the abyss. I actually heard colleagues of mine actually admit that the Supreme Court took the election from Gore and they were happy, hell, estatic about it. Thats what drove me away, I like the idea of fiscal sanity, thats why I was a republican, but when people I respected actually turned away from the rule of law and fairness, I couldn't stomach it, so I left the scene. Welcome to the "Straight Think Express" Slesh! I knew you were too smart to not convert. Many older Dems are ex-Repubs. I know you're not there yet, but doesn't this seem to show something in this trend. It seems the Republican party was something taught to children, and as they grow, they tend to shed those beliefs. It's similar to religion. /no slant toward conservatives or Christians, Jews, Muslims. It just seems there's a trend to liberalism and atheism. I make no judgments on any, I just see slesh sliding left, like many have. I also realize people have slid right/left all through history, so this is Keynsian. |
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| Author: | HelloMyKneeGrows [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
CriminallyVu1gar wrote: I think I recall reading there that it was an internet poll too. To me, that in itself explains much of it. It is way easier to check a box with an absurd answer (tons of us do it here with sabres polls), than it is to tell someone in person or over the phone some BS that's going to make them think you're an idiot. Wait, telling someone Obama is a Muslim, foreign-born, American hating, embodiment of all evil Anti-Christ might make you sound like an idiot? Lol. Agreed. Much easier to throw out wacky, ridiculous answers to an anonymous internet poll than it is to actually tell someone some of this crazy shit |
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| Author: | daz28 [ Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: the racist, un-american, socalist, muslim... |
If you think the poll is nonsense, watch this: http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/right- ... ndex.html# |
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