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Author:  End The Curse [ Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:21 am ]
Post subject:  MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

MSNBC reports this? Apparently, the Inner Party has a dissident in its ranks. Don't fret, we can soon expect the Ministry of Truth to "rectify" these poll numbers so they correspond with The Party, and all records of unperson Weinberg to be flushed down the Memory Hole.

Quote:
Poll: Fewer believe in global warming
Posted: Thursday, October 22, 2009
From NBC's Ali Weinberg

Even as major climate change legislation moves through Congress, fewer voters believe global warming is a very serious problem -- or even think there is solid evidence of it -- a new Pew Research survey finds. And action on the environment has slipped even further down voters' lists of policy priorities for the president, although a majority would not oppose regulations limiting carbon emissions.

According to the poll, 35% of respondents said global warming was a serious problem, down from 44% in April 2008. Even starker is the increase in voters' skepticism: Only 57% said they believe there is solid evidence that earth's average temperature has increased over the past few decades, compared with 71% who said that last year -- a 14-point drop. Also, just 36% said increases in global temperatures are the result of human activity, which was down from 47% last year.

Along political lines, global warming was the lowest-rated priority for both independents and Republicans, and was 16th among Democrats out of 20 issues.

Author:  Hammygoodness [ Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Well, naturally as time goes on and warming tails off, people will be less likely to believe there's warming.

You know, maybe they're just not pushing global warming (oops, I mean climate change) hard enough. Maybe if they talked about it more and referenced global warming, going green and carbon footprints in more aspects of our lives, people would finally get with the program. Just yell it louder! People will believe you!

Ham

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:30 am ]
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oh here we go. climate change is unilateral. it fluctuates. its a rollercoaster. while i dont doubt that man has accelerated the process to a degree, overall, i just dont think global warming is man made. i do, however, support green energy, and reduction in engine emissions, recycling, ect. its just healthy.

however, i do not believe this to be an agenda fabricated by people seeking attention, or anything on a personal level.

i could be wrong, im not a scientist. but its just what i believe.

Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:24 am ]
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That and people don't understand the difference between climate and weather. Not saying anything one way or the other, but every time it gets cold, it's "global warming my ass," and every time it's too hot it's "god damned global warming." That is not how it works.

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

no kidding! we get a 65 degree day in january, and some jackass always exclaims "now try to disprove global warming!" thats not global warming. thats a warm front that happens EVERY january.

however, and this is interesting. its been thought that the polls are flipping. actually, its pretty damn certain. so, what your kind of seeing, potentially, is winters getting warmer, summers getting cooler, because we are shifting to southern hemisphere climate cycle.

im not sure if i buy into this theory, but its certainly something ive debated on.

Author:  ItsMe [ Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:20 pm ]
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The way I understand it, from my Weather and Climate professor, humans may have accelerated the process a bit, but since the northern hemisphere was covered with ice thousands of feet thick only 15000 years ago (the original Native Americans migrated from Asia via the ice covering the Bering Straits about 15000 years ago), the present warming could be merely the end of the latest cycle. As the Earth warms further, more water means more clouds, thus instead of warming, the Earth will cool. Plus, since we as humans think of ourselves as all powerful and mighty, we feel not only are we killing something (the Earth) which is 4.5 billion years old, but we can control it....Mother nature will protect herself and if the oceans rise, millions who are polluting the air will perish and then since there are less humans on Earth, the use of carbon fuels will decrease. Then the effects will reverse so that the present thermal cycle of thousands of years will continue until the globe is so warm, it will be covered with clouds, a cooling off will begin. Another 15 or 20 thousand years, the Earth will be ice covered and if humans havent evolved out of existence, they will blame the ice age on stealing too much of the Sun's energy for personal use.....or so I understand.

Author:  Crosscheck [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Maybe if the climate change zealots stopped running around screaming "the sky is falling" people wouldn't treat them like chicken little.

Author:  mechaphil [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Crosscheck wrote:
Maybe if the climate change zealots stopped running around screaming "the sky is falling" people wouldn't treat them like chicken little.

This. And I'm a believer in climate change. I'm just not running around like a dunce, squawking about it.

Author:  ItsMe [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Also carbon fuels are a finite quality....in the next couple of years, the consumption will be greater than the production (our presence in the Middle East begins to be unveiled at that point). At some point the fuels will run out, and the atmosphere will return itself to normality.....cleanse though rain. The carbon will return to the oceans uniting with hydrogen and oxygen and begin a new life processes. In another 200 million years or so, a new life cycle will emerge. All is well.

I'm not sure whether the warming issue is valid or a platform for grand standers and mindless tag along liberal defeatists or not. And I do support going Green. But these same Global warming grand standers are spewing jet exhaust and limo fumes into the air all over the world, spreading the word for us not to do it. They are the same people who are saying "not in my back yard" for wind farms and nuclear power stations. I do know that long after we as a humanoid species are gone, the Earth will survive for billions of years to come. Perhaps we should be more concerned with some nutbag dictator pushing a button and eliminating all life on Earth in seconds.

Author:  mechaphil [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:37 pm ]
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In relation to people who take a NIMBY stance in regards to green power sources being within distance of their homes or communities, I, for one, love seeing example of green power. On the drive up to Buffalo, along Rt. 5, you can see the Steel Wings windmills and I love it. It, to me, signifies a readiness to move forward from exhaustable fuels.

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:43 pm ]
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im a big fan of green energy, and green roofs, and such. LEED certification is a must, and i am a big bliever that any old building being renovated, at a certain price tag, must be at the very least "bronze LEED" certified. the kick here is that once a building becomes LEED certified, it gets certain tax breaks. thankfully, in grand rapids, if this happens, you do get a brownfield tax credit. im not sure how it is over there.

phil, NIMBY people are, for the most part, detrimental to city growth, and growth in general. no, i dont want a nuclear power plant in my back yard either, but if someone asked if they could put up a windmill in my yard, and it didnt kill my yard, or house, or anything, id say, sure, go ahead. and you know what? youd get some nice pocket change in the exchange as well.

learn whats going on in your community. if theres a vote for something that could be built in your community, follow it, learn the benefits, and vote. be active. its those NIMBY people who stalled the buffalo casino. and the casinos tax kick to the city would really REALLY help the city. pathetic.

Author:  Crosscheck [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

ironyisadeadscene wrote:
phil, NIMBY people are, for the most part, detrimental to city growth, and growth in general. no, i dont want a nuclear power plant in my back yard either, but if someone asked if they could put up a windmill in my yard, and it didnt kill my yard, or house, or anything, id say, sure, go ahead. and you know what? youd get some nice pocket change in the exchange as well.

Then that would make you less of a douchbag than Ted Kennedy was....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... cape_wind/

He fought a wind farm that was going to be 8 miles off shore from his house.
Rot in hell Ted you elitist, entitled bastard.

Author:  Rutledge222 [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:59 pm ]
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Kevin Williams of the Rochester news stated that if you were to stretch out the weather timeline over the course of a mile, we have researched and documented ONE INCH of that. Global Warming is a myth and I dont believe its true, oh and btw, America is the only country that cares about Global Warming, most of the pollution is coming from Russia, and India. Do you honestly think they care? No Not in the least. and its just a bunch of crap that american politics use for to scare people. It is also an incredible waste of money by our government to put so much research and money into determining how to prevent it, when they have no viable proof that it exists.

Author:  mechaphil [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Rutledge222 wrote:
Kevin Williams of the Rochester news stated that if you were to stretch out the weather timeline over the course of a mile, we have researched and documented ONE INCH of that. Global Warming is a myth and I dont believe its true, oh and btw, America is the only country that cares about Global Warming, most of the pollution is coming from Russia, and India. Do you honestly think they care? No Not in the least. and its just a bunch of crap that american politics use for to scare people. It is also an incredible waste of money by our government to put so much research and money into determining how to prevent it, when they have no viable proof that it exists.

Well you certainly are one uninformed kiddo, now aren't you? Ever heard of the Kyoto Treaty (named for Kyoto, JAPAN)? The treaty that applies to the Kyoto Protocol (again, Kyoto, JAPAN), which EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY BUT AMERICA has either signed and ratified or plans to sign and ratify.

Go back to grazing, little sheeple. Or do some research. I'm not saying anything either way, but you're just being ignorant.

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Crosscheck wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
phil, NIMBY people are, for the most part, detrimental to city growth, and growth in general. no, i dont want a nuclear power plant in my back yard either, but if someone asked if they could put up a windmill in my yard, and it didnt kill my yard, or house, or anything, id say, sure, go ahead. and you know what? youd get some nice pocket change in the exchange as well.

Then that would make you less of a douchbag than Ted Kennedy was....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... cape_wind/

He fought a wind farm that was going to be 8 miles off shore from his house.
Rot in hell Ted you elitist, entitled bastard.


the things are kinda ugly, yes. but the whole thing is bigger then the individual. i can stand to look at them, because i know they are making a difference. im not a selfish prick.

Author:  Rutledge222 [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:27 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Kevin Williams of the Rochester news stated that if you were to stretch out the weather timeline over the course of a mile, we have researched and documented ONE INCH of that. Global Warming is a myth and I dont believe its true, oh and btw, America is the only country that cares about Global Warming, most of the pollution is coming from Russia, and India. Do you honestly think they care? No Not in the least. and its just a bunch of crap that american politics use for to scare people. It is also an incredible waste of money by our government to put so much research and money into determining how to prevent it, when they have no viable proof that it exists.

Well you certainly are one uninformed kiddo, now aren't you? Ever heard of the Kyoto Treaty (named for Kyoto, JAPAN)? The treaty that applies to the Kyoto Protocol (again, Kyoto, JAPAN), which EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY BUT AMERICA has either signed and ratified or plans to sign and ratify.

Go back to grazing, little sheeple. Or do some research. I'm not saying anything either way, but you're just being ignorant.


Ignorant? Excuse me? Lets not get critical here... it is NO LIE that Russia and India are major if not the two most contributurs to polution. I may be wrong about America being the only one giving a crap, but if you have proof that Global Warming exists then please share otherwise I dont think we should waste money trying to stop something we have no real evidence that exists. Please dont call me ignorant when I am no such thing. I have my beliefs but I do admit that me saying America is the only one doing something is wrong, I should have looked that up, but that was my understanding, because I never read anything about other countries trying to do something to stop it.

Author:  mechaphil [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

Rutledge222 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Kevin Williams of the Rochester news stated that if you were to stretch out the weather timeline over the course of a mile, we have researched and documented ONE INCH of that. Global Warming is a myth and I dont believe its true, oh and btw, America is the only country that cares about Global Warming, most of the pollution is coming from Russia, and India. Do you honestly think they care? No Not in the least. and its just a bunch of crap that american politics use for to scare people. It is also an incredible waste of money by our government to put so much research and money into determining how to prevent it, when they have no viable proof that it exists.

Well you certainly are one uninformed kiddo, now aren't you? Ever heard of the Kyoto Treaty (named for Kyoto, JAPAN)? The treaty that applies to the Kyoto Protocol (again, Kyoto, JAPAN), which EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY BUT AMERICA has either signed and ratified or plans to sign and ratify.

Go back to grazing, little sheeple. Or do some research. I'm not saying anything either way, but you're just being ignorant.


Ignorant? Excuse me? Lets not get critical here... it is NO LIE that Russia and India are major if not the two most contributurs to polution. I may be wrong about America being the only one giving a crap, but if you have proof that Global Warming exists then please share otherwise I dont think we should waste money trying to stop something we have no real evidence that exists. Please dont call me ignorant when I am no such thing. I have my beliefs but I do admit that me saying America is the only one doing something is wrong, I should have looked that up, but that was my understanding, because I never read anything about other countries trying to do something to stop it.

Textbook definition of ignorance, boyo.

Author:  Rutledge222 [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:32 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Rutledge222 wrote:
Kevin Williams of the Rochester news stated that if you were to stretch out the weather timeline over the course of a mile, we have researched and documented ONE INCH of that. Global Warming is a myth and I dont believe its true, oh and btw, America is the only country that cares about Global Warming, most of the pollution is coming from Russia, and India. Do you honestly think they care? No Not in the least. and its just a bunch of crap that american politics use for to scare people. It is also an incredible waste of money by our government to put so much research and money into determining how to prevent it, when they have no viable proof that it exists.

Well you certainly are one uninformed kiddo, now aren't you? Ever heard of the Kyoto Treaty (named for Kyoto, JAPAN)? The treaty that applies to the Kyoto Protocol (again, Kyoto, JAPAN), which EVERY MAJOR COUNTRY BUT AMERICA has either signed and ratified or plans to sign and ratify.

Go back to grazing, little sheeple. Or do some research. I'm not saying anything either way, but you're just being ignorant.


Ignorant? Excuse me? Lets not get critical here... it is NO LIE that Russia and India are major if not the two most contributurs to polution. I may be wrong about America being the only one giving a crap, but if you have proof that Global Warming exists then please share otherwise I dont think we should waste money trying to stop something we have no real evidence that exists. Please dont call me ignorant when I am no such thing. I have my beliefs but I do admit that me saying America is the only one doing something is wrong, I should have looked that up, but that was my understanding, because I never read anything about other countries trying to do something to stop it.

Textbook definition of ignorance, boyo.


well you can thank your the liberal stations of this country for not making it a major headline, they seem to be more concerned with healthcare and the "savior" Obama.

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:33 pm ]
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and another thread comes to obama hate..... and more fabrications.

Author:  Rutledge222 [ Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: MSNBC: Polls show only 36% believe in manmade global warming

ironyisadeadscene wrote:
and another thread comes to obama hate..... and more fabrications.



I dont hate Obama, not in the least, I think he is actually a good man with good intentions, but I dont agree with what he has done, and I am just saying that I was misinformed abot other countrys because the Liberal news stations were more concerned with broadcasting things about Obama and Healthcare than global warming, that I still dont believe exists ;)

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