Why should we think that one general law makes sense for the United States as a whole. Our government should be fragmented into a state run entity. This would take pressure off the central government and allow laws and regulations to adhere to their citizens rights in a more reasonable fashion. If Vermont wants to allow abortions or California would like to counter their debt by selling marijuana they should be allowed to.

Totally! If I want to, for example, take a ship over to africa, 'acquire' some savages, bring them over here and 'encourage' them to work for roughly 8 dollars less than the minimum wage, who is this damned socialist OBAMA to tell me I cant? (spits chaw juice onto ground)

Totally! If I want to, for example, take a ship over to africa, 'acquire' some savages, bring them over here and 'encourage' them to work for roughly 8 dollars less than the minimum wage, who is this damned socialist OBAMA to tell me I cant? (spits chaw juice onto ground)

Where in the HELL did this argument come from? Like, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, and doesn't even really logically respond to ksquier's post...

Where in the HELL did this argument come from? Like, it doesn't make ANY sense to me, and doesn't even really logically respond to ksquier's post...

Seriously dude? Am I the only one here who equates "states rights" to the argument surrounding slavery? That was one of the main focuses of the civil war, states rights vs central government. I find decentralizing control of basic laws like this a fucking terrible idea, for the reason stated above. I didnt think i'd have to spell it out like this. I dont trust individual states to 'do the right thing', I'm surprised anyone does. You guys all talk such shit about the south whenever we play the hurricanes, but now you'd trust them to make the right decisions regarding things like basic human rights?

I don't live there, but I've been to a lot of cities in the south, and they are pretty nice well educated people. Sure, you've got weirdos and racists in the sticks...but we do in the north, too. I could take you to places in Jersey, PA, NY, and Ohio that would make you think you were in the South in the 1950s but with snow.

I don't mind the states being able to control a lot of things, but yes, there needs to be some federal regulations and oversight. unless i misread something, i don't think anyone said "get rid of federal government" altogether. how strong and centralized the federal government is has been an argument since the Articles of Confederation and will be long after Brawndo takes over the country.

I really cannot believe you are bringing up the civil war. I mean, really? And associating shit talking during games to social issues is about the dumbest thing anyone could do. I say that West Virginia fans fuck their cousins after college football games. This does not mean they actually do it. And I do not think that if the state were to govern itself that there would be cousins banging each other out in the streets. BTW I am south of the Mason-Dixon so your southern bullshit examples can stop.

Your lack of faith in humanity is truely astounding.

The fact of the matter is if you take the powers of the Federal government which are enumerated in the constitution and compare that to the powers it currently enjoys, there's no other conclusion to reach other than the Federal government has been usurping power from the states almost from the very beginning of the republic.

The tenth amendment exists for a reason.

I'll even give you the interpretations of the commerce clause...the Fed is still overstepping its constitutional bounds.

Do we need a Federal government which is capable for many reasons?
Of course.
Is it high time we put its powers back in check?
I sure think so.