ironyisadeadscene wrote:
hes got my vote again.
people in hell will get ice water before i vote republican.
people in hell will get ice water before i vote republican.
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| Author: | Mr. Natural [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
We polled the GOP Sabres fans about their pick. Obviously, the Democrats have no primary, since their candidate is the president. It is a long time until the election, but how do you Democrats feel about your guy three years later? Do you still believe in the Hope? Are you voting for him again? If you worked for his campaign in 2008 will you do it again in 2012? |
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| Author: | NYIntensity [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
I think that anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that when your campaign slogan transforms from "Change" to "Hope", it's akin to transforming from "Promise" to "Prayer".... |
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| Author: | BagBoy [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
#2 for me. |
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| Author: | NYIntensity [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
BagBoy wrote: #2 for me. Can you give reasons why? I'm not doubting your choice, just curious and trying to encourage some conversation |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
NYIntensity wrote: I think that anyone with an ounce of sense would realize that when your campaign slogan transforms from "Change" to "Hope", it's akin to transforming from "Promise" to "Prayer".... I dont really doubt this, but I have no idea what you're talking about slogan/campaign wise. Dude is in office, he's not campaigning (although clearly his tone will change closer to the election) and im not seeing posters or anything with 'hope' as the message, so...whatchoo talkin bout willis? |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
hes got my vote again. people in hell will get ice water before i vote republican. |
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| Author: | Mr. Natural [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
ironyisadeadscene wrote: hes got my vote again. people in hell will get ice water before i vote republican.
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
YankeeInRaleigh wrote: he's not campaigning (although clearly his tone will change closer to the election) *cough* Bullshit *cough* ironyisadeadscene wrote: people in hell will get ice water before i vote republican. Don't get hung up on labels. "Democrats" and "Republicans" used to be much different than they are now from a platform and policy perspective. |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
Crosscheck wrote: YankeeInRaleigh wrote: he's not campaigning (although clearly his tone will change closer to the election) *cough* Bullshit *cough* Whatever, I bullshit on your bullshit! It will be clear when he is on the campaign trail. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
YankeeInRaleigh wrote: Whatever, I bullshit on your bullshit! It will be clear when he is on the campaign trail. I suppose it's kinda hard to tell since he never really left it, but my fucked up commute yesterday for his hand job on Jay Leno tells me he's campaigning 
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
He got a handjob on Jay Leno? Man, all the perks of being president. That doesn't even come out of his salary. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
I don't think I'm voting for him. Talk to me in a year if Oregon's competitive. If it is maybe I will but I think I'm quitting democrats, It's like quitting smoking though, so I guess I need to make it through a few elections before I'm out of the woods. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
Stuuuuuuu wrote: He got a handjob on Jay Leno? Man, all the perks of being president. That doesn't even come out of his salary. That was in the green room...the softball set questions / answers were a bonus. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
Crosscheck wrote: Stuuuuuuu wrote: He got a handjob on Jay Leno? Man, all the perks of being president. That doesn't even come out of his salary. That was in the green room...the softball set questions / answers were a bonus. Well you can't give hard questions after the HJ since everything else is already soft. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
Shit, can I get in trouble for talking about the president's genitals? |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
Naa, John Ashcroft is gone...Eric Holder just loves it when the conversation switches to genitals. |
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| Author: | BagBoy [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
NYIntensity wrote: BagBoy wrote: #2 for me. Can you give reasons why? I'm not doubting your choice, just curious and trying to encourage some conversation Certainly. First of all, I can't see any way I'll vote for any of the GOP candidates. As far as I can tell, they are completely in love with regressive taxation. Yes, I'm a little disappointed with Obama, but I'm not going to sulk about it and stay home and not vote for him. That's especially true considering I live in NC, which could go either way. Staying home would be cutting off my nose to spite my face (jeez, that's such a stupid expression, but you get the idea). I'm disappointed with Obama, because he has been on the defensive from day 1. There are some incredibly stupid and inflammatory things that have come out of the mouths of GOP members of Congress during his term, but he never started calling bullshit on any of it until very recently. Yes, things would be tough for any prez the last 3 years, but he should have been touting the things he has managed to accomplish from the beginning. The stimulus, for example, did not keep us below 9% unemployment - true. But it preserved and created (mostly preserved) a couple or 3 million jobs (I don't know the exact amount, but it's well documented by the Congressional Budget Office). There's bin Laden. There's Libya. The fact that he's not taking enough credit for things like this makes him look weak, and then the rabble only increases, especially with Libya. FFS, what's wrong with letting the French and Italians patrol their own goddamn back yard? They are our allies, aren't they? And don't we have enough fucking "boots on the ground" elsewhere? Yet, the GOP says "he's leading from behind". Well it turns out he handled Libya quite well if you ask me. I don't want the US to be a policeman. However, he's not talking about it enough! I must admit though that I think in some ways he has been leading from behind on some domestic issues. And that whole healthcare thing was a disaster. It was a noble idea. Most of my family lives in Canada and they all appreciate their national healthcare. --BTW, in spite of the costs for nationalized healthcare in Canada, my relatives in Ontario are paying about the same taxes we are (unless you're rich!). How do they do that? It's pretty easy. Don't spend trillions on defense.-- Anyway, he should have known that any healthcare bill that came through Congress would be a bastardized rancid piece of old sausage by the time it got out. And it was. It just isn't time for nationalized healthcare in the US right now, and it might not ever be. Obama really wasted a lot of political capital on that one. I know the left have been disappointed with Obama making compromises and trying to work with GOP members of Congress, but I'm not. Hell, I'd say every prez since (and including) Reagan have made compromises that were upsetting to their bases. That's fine with me. I think that's part of the prez's job. Anyway, #2 for me. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
BagBoy wrote: Most of my family lives in Canada and they all appreciate their national healthcare. --BTW, in spite of the costs for nationalized healthcare in Canada, my relatives in Ontario are paying about the same taxes we are (unless you're rich!). How do they do that? It's pretty easy. Don't spend trillions on defense.-- For better or worse, the US is a superpower and Canada is not. That status takes a lot of money and a big stick to maintain. EDIT: and sorry, I wasn't trying to nit pick. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
my post seems to be MIA. anyways. all the GOP candidates suck. |
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| Author: | NYIntensity [ Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dem Sabres Fans - Is there still Hope in 2012? |
BagBoy - I don't think Obama deserves credit for capturing Osama Bin Laden....that was the result of a lot of work by a bunch of other gov't agencies. As far as the "saved or created" numbers, I did a research paper on it a few years ago. As an example, one company, a two person operation that made boots for firefighters, used the stimulus money to make 12 pairs of boots. They reported that as 14 jobs saved or created. That kind of fuzzy math wins elections I agree with you on his stance with Libya, that we're not in any position to be the world's police, and I think that's why I'm such a big Ron Paul fan. It irked me that he (Obama) refused to accept the aid of something like 16 nations during the Deepwater Horizon incident. |
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