Quick question for you libertarians out there.

How do you feel about the current situation with the OWS protesters, particularly incidents like what happened on the UC davis campus. Seems to me those people were deprived of their liberty by being sprayed in the fucking face for simply sitting there.

what is an american liberterian?

I like the OWS protesters. Why do so many citizens not care about the free speech, the right to protest. ?!?!? it's a shame for the old (not very good) democracy - USA. 100 years ago your system was quite good (relatively), but now .....

I don't like it. At all.

Let me clarify. I don't have an issue with OWS, other than there are a lot of people there promoting socialistic ideas.

What I don't like is the police treatment of these protestors, and their violations of our right to assembly.

i don't have any issues with what he said. is any of it wrong?

These become temporary living conditions, and that's not sanitary or safe, and doesn't fall within the purview of the "right to assemble".

It's his manner of presentation, and his history of getting away with talking shit about the US, and being hyper-sensitive about europe. I think if he wants to engage in these discussions, that double standard needs to GTFO.

Geez yhoshi, you sure do get away with a lot of shit talking about the US under the guise of 'language differences'. Of course, we dont get to say ANYTHING negative about the EU whatsoever because that is some sort of discrimination which you whine about the second you decide to interpret it that way. I'm going to use my first amendment rights to tell you to piss off.

says who? your theory is as ambiguous as the information you're trying to belittle.

So the tent fucking city at Zuccotti park is ambiguous?

I don't think the police are interfering with the right to assembly; when does an "assembly" end though? Does it last an hour? 8 hours? Days?

These become temporary living conditions, and that's not sanitary or safe, and doesn't fall within the purview of the "right to assemble".

they're supposed to negotiate with these people and find out what it is they can do to satisfy them.

no, their job is to work with these people and find out what both parties can work on together to find a mutual solution.

It is indefinite. That's the point of our right to assembly laws. It's designed to leverage our government through peaceful protesting.

When the going gets rough in terms of time and situational issues, they're not supposed to clear us out; they're supposed to negotiate with these people and find out what it is they can do to satisfy them.

You're nitpicking. That's essentially what I meant.