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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ts/249315/ I didn't even know they could do this. This is against the fourth amendment, isn't it? |
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| Author: | Rutledge222 [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
This is a part of the national defense authorization act 2012. Yes the senate voted to pass the bill but it needs to be ratified by the house of representatives first. On the other hand this article pretty much sums up what it can do in the first paragraph. http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul ... ng-2011-12 If this is the case, and civilians start getting arrested for "suspected" terrorism, you can bet protesters will be among the firs to get arrested. Also basically the Bill of Rights is flushed down the toilet and doesnt exist anymore if this gets signed into law. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
It's just pretty much taking our democracy, our freedom, and our whole nation and making it "do as we say or get locked up for life". If this bill comes to law the U.S is no better than Afghanistan. |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:38 pm ] |
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BlueandYellow wrote: It's just pretty much taking our democracy, our freedom, and our whole nation and making it "do as we say or get locked up for life". If this bill comes to law the U.S is no better than Afghanistan. Really, if the president of the US is allowed to label people as 'terrorists' and take away their rights, then we're no better than afghanistan? Wow, afghanistan is a lot better off than I thought! |
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
Read somewhere that Obama was considering vetoing this bill. I certainly hope he does if it gets through congress. |
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| Author: | Displaced Fan [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:04 pm ] |
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: It's just pretty much taking our democracy, our freedom, and our whole nation and making it "do as we say or get locked up for life". If this bill comes to law the U.S is no better than Afghanistan. Really, if the president of the US is allowed to label people as 'terrorists' and take away their rights, then we're no better than afghanistan? Wow, afghanistan is a lot better off than I thought! Can you get this in Uz-beka-beka-stan-stan? 
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| Author: | daz28 [ Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
Yes, you can get heart disease in oozbeckhamstans. Anywho, this legislation is so blindly retarded, I won't even bother stating why. Will we be asking questions like, "Did they ever release those Japs from back in 1940?"?? Or will asking about their release be considered an act of terror, too? I'd rather be a victim than a slave. Period. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:19 am ] |
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What I don't understand why they are concerned about imprisoning American Citizens for life. A suspected terrorist can get life in jail with no trial, but a mass murderer can get less WITH a trail. WTF?! |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:59 am ] |
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PuckSniperPensel wrote: Read somewhere that Obama was considering vetoing this bill. I certainly hope he does if it gets through congress. The last president to refuse an expansion of his own power was George Washington. I wouldn't hold your breath. That said, how will this look being passed by a Democratic Senate if it goes down in a Republican House? We're through the rabbit hole on national "security". |
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| Author: | Displaced Fan [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:24 pm ] |
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Well this provision was inserted by both parties: Senators Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, and John McCain, Republican of Arizona. Good old Johnny. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:42 pm ] |
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Displaced Fan wrote: Well this provision was inserted by both parties: Senators Carl Levin, Democrat of Michigan, and John McCain, Republican of Arizona. Good old Johnny. doesn't matter...if it passes the senate it was passed by Democrats. If it passes the house it was passed by Republicans. If it gets wide bipartisan support it's time to start stockpiling ammo. |
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| Author: | Mr. Natural [ Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
It is interesting that the OP focuses on President Obama as the threat, even though he is threatening to veto the bill (albeit, not because of the offending provision discussed here). National Defense Authorization Act: White House Renews Veto Threat After Senate Vote http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 25768.html |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:19 pm ] |
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i wanted to bump this because obama removed the part of the bill where the US can detain someone without giving them a trial. so yeah, all the worry for nothing. |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
you mean barack HUSSEIN obama, the secret socialist muslim, who was born in kenya, and is working day and night to undermine the very essence of american life at his secret muslim puppetmasters wishes? You must be wrong. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:40 pm ] |
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Not that I don't trust your word on such matters, but link? |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:45 pm ] |
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Crosscheck wrote: Not that I don't trust your word on such matters, but link? lemme look. it happened a few days ago. |
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| Author: | Montalo [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:06 pm ] |
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useless banter because im a fucking idiot |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Congress Votes: Obama Can Imprison ANYONE he wants |
Montalo wrote: Crosscheck wrote: Not that I don't trust your word on such matters, but link? keep in mind the source, and as such grain of salt, but https://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2 ... -m03.shtml Wrong thread 
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