Hecht is better than two of the top six of the Stanley cup champions! (Top 6 determined by ATOI).

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I also noticed a few other players had +.05 on Hecht and around 6 more polayers could be practically swapped with Hecht.

Hartnell on Philly was a .54, that is really close to what Hecht did, and Hecht got 3 more goals then him.

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Teams with 20 goal scorers outside the top 6

Chicago - Brouwer, Versteeg (Brouwer still has a lower ppg than Hecht).
Colorado - Stewart
Dallas - Benn
Detroit - Holmstrom
San Jose - Setoguchi
St. Louis - Steen, Perron
Tampa Bay - Downie
Toronto - Hagman
Washington - Fehr


So nine teams out of thirty. More than I expected. I'm just having trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that on a team committed to playing good defense, you don't think a guy who can pot 20 goals and 50 points, AND play responsible defensive hockey has a place in the top six.

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I go by how the product performs on the ice with my own eyes as well. No one is disputing Hecht's worth as a defensive player. My opinion is that an offensive minded player can produce more than Hecth on the Connolly line and if Hecht was slid down to the 3rd line it wouldn't effect his game in the least bit. He should be producing more than 16.5 goals and 41.2 points a season (he is not a 20 goal/50 point a season player as you claimed based on the pure mathematics alone).
Those numbers are more suited to line 3 given his 2 way play combined with the talent he is playing with.

It may help that line be defensively responsible, but it also hinders that line to score goals, in particular, clutch goals (i.e. goals that would win you playoff games and help get the team further than round 1).
Hecht, based on what I have seen of him with Connolly and Pomminville, is not suited for the top 6 in my opinion.
Sorry, he's just not the clutch player we need. Maybe Connolly and Pomminville, who have scoring touches of their own, would do better than they already are with another linemate.

Hecht, being a defensive forward by nature, as you clearly pointed out and I agree with, is much more suited to a shutdown line than a scoring line in my opinion.

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I agree with Slesh, I would rather have Ennis in the top six and Hecht on the third line, than Stafford on the third line.

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(412 career poits / 697 games) * 82 games = 48.5 points. Pretty damn close.
I was talking about capability anyways.

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You people keep prattling on about how you don't want Ennis to play on the 3rd line. Do you really believe it's going to happen? He'll either play with Roy and Vanek or with Connolly and Pominville. End of story.

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Setoguchi is in the top six

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There were 20 players in the league, in the top 6, who scored over 1 PPG and played at least 65 games.

I did not count Hemsky since he only played 22 games or Wolski or Mueller or Stempiak as their total points for the season were not over a PPG.

Only 13 teams had a player with a PPG, of those 13 teams 5 teams had multiple guys who scored more then a PPG. Of those 5 teams, 2 had 3 players with over a PPG and the other 3 teams had two guys.

I'm lost with Kovalchuk a bit though. I only counted him with Atlanta, but he still played 27 games with the Devils

So to expect our team to be full of PPG players is impossible also, but to have a guy good for around 50 points a year is not bad, especially on the second line, as it seems most of the averages of combined top 6's would produce a PPG total of around .6 PPG with the exceptions of Washington, San Jose, and probably Vancouver.

Alex, since you already have all the data handy, do the Average PPG of the teams also and lets see how that falls into place.

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Not based on ice time.

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Do you have a roster from Lindy already?
I would speculate he is going to start with Vanek and Roy "IF" Stafford is traded (and thats a big if).
Otherwise, I can see Lindy forcing the V-R-S line back together again, putting Ennis on LW with Connolly and Pomminville.

Now, do I believe a trade is coming? You bet, 8 D men in the pipe line with Gragnani as the 9th fall back position.
1 of Butler or Sekera or most likely gone (crossing fingers for that pylon Bulter, would rather have Sekera).

If that is the case, it's ok to speculate a little here. Lets say Stafford and 1 of Butler/Sekera in a packaged deal.
What are you looking to bring in? San Jose, Anahiem and even LA are looking for depth defensemen.
Ryane Clowe? Maybe, would be a much better fit with Connolly and Pomminville given the fact he uses his body to "forecheck".
Do I dare say it, a larger package including picks for Bobby Ryan. Most likely not, but hey, one can dream.
LA is interesting, I am not a Simmonds fan, to 1 deminsional for me, but, is there simply prospects that look decent to help fill out the Portland roster for now and develope then just move Ennis up to the V-R line and keep Hecht with Connolly and Pommers?

Many different directions can be had if Regier were to choose the trade route. Like I said, I would rather see a more offensively gifted player up in the top 6 as opposed to Hecht, but if a trade can be had to build for the near term future and dump some of our soft talent, I'm all for it.

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Stafford didn't even end up with Roy and Vanek towards the end of the year. It kept getting switched up because no one worked.

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One word: Hemsky!

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Hemsky did have 22 points in 22 games last year.

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Yes, I like Hemsky, or even Penner off of the Oilers.

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Stats schmats. Irony hit it on the head. He's a 2.5 liner. He's good as a 3rd liner, and can fill in adequately on the 2nd line when needed(on a cup contending team of course). This notion that all teams but Washington would be happy to plug him in on their 2nd line is crazy(imho, of course). As an example, if Anaheim manages to sign Kariya and Ryan, he would NEVER fit on their top 6. Even w/o Kariya, he'd have to beat out Lupul, Koivu or Selanne.

Anyways, cue x-checks dead horse gif.