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YankeeInRaleigh
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:41 pm 
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How come every topic you start, it's always you bitching or it's negative?



Seriously.

And what the fuck is the point of this thread, it's not like the team is making some choice to face backup goalies, or that they will face backups throughout the season, what are you even proposing? This thread has zero purpose.


Someitmes it's IMPOSSIBLE to have a grown-up discussion on this board.

I have had interesting discussions with some people about this very topic in person, yet nobody I talked to poo-pooed the concept that this team has had an easier versoion of these so-called top teams and division leaders. Geez, how can you guys not see that?



So let me get this straight, the entire point of this thread is you trying to convince everyone that the sabres have had an easier time against some teams because their backup was in net instead of the starter.

I guess 'grown up discussions' dont involve responding to what the person said. Like I mentioned in my original post, the sabres dont have a say in who they see in net, so what is the point of this thread? Are you trying to convince us all that the sabres are not as good as their record? I'm literally asking wtf the point is, because there really does not seem to be one.


First of all, you're not responding to the issue, you're just attacking me and the thread itself.

Attacking the creation of a thread because your feathers are ruffled over it's content DOES NOT mean it is baseless. The point of this thread is to spur discussion between those who are capable of taking off the rose-colored glasses for just a second and discussing the reality of the situation and where this team fits in.

Seriously, read the posts of people who understand the "point" of the thread. They're the ones discussing what needs to change for this team to be more legit.

And what IS your point in criticizing this thread? If you don't like it, why do you bother participating in it?



And once again you fail to actually address the content of my post and just post whatever jibberish falls out of your head at that moment. Clearly you dont even wish to have a discussion on the subject, and just want to act like some troll who feigns interest in the team so you can come and shit on them whenever possible.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Vancouver had Schneider in net - He stopped 93% of the shots prior to the game and was just incredible in his previous starts and not a bit worse than Luongo (who is overrated anyways)

Kings had Bernier in net - I don't think Bernier is any worse than Quick. Quick just had a great season start.

The only win against a subpar goalie was against Washington. Before that we had Enroth or Lalime in net and those two are worse than Hedberg, Giguere or Biron.

Please don't take one fact and make a headline out of it like a cheap newspaper. We faced a lot of backups, but Miller only played 2/3 of the games and most of them without being his awesome self.



Bernier has better pedigre for lack of a better word.

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powerplayer
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:

And once again you fail to actually address the content of my post and just post whatever jibberish falls out of your head at that moment. Clearly you dont even wish to have a discussion on the subject, and just want to act like some troll who feigns interest in the team so you can come and shit on them whenever possible.



Ya' know, if you go back and read the first 2 statements I made in this thread, THE FIRST TWO, you'll see that I was desperately trying to soften this discussion so the biggest babies on here wouldn't throw a hissy fit over my comments. I allowed for the "wins" issue whole-heartedly.

Still, the hissy fits and attacks on me persist.

And now I'm even being called a troll over this. Are you guys THAT fragile for fuck sake? Seriously?

I contribute to these boards, and some seem to appreciate that. But I guess because I don't regularly blow smoke up the team's ass, I'm now a troll.

Ironically, there are posters on this board who flat-out SHIT on the team when things aren't going well. I don't even do that! Ever read me saying that the team or anybody on it sucks---or anything like that?

I have been in GDT's where most on this baord are shitting all over the team---but not me. Think about that the next time you wanna rip me or call me a fucking troll.

Many here are one extreme or the other. I try to be reasonable and on an even keel. That's too much for some I guess.

Unreal.


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Skyline_BNR34
PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:59 pm 
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But when someone disagrees with your opinion on a team and has different outlooks, you tend to get butt hurt and throw out all this BS about it and not have a reasonable discussion.

It's not the first time it's happened anyway.

I'm optimistic about our team, but I don't go around saying everyone who is pessimistic about it is unreasonable for it like you said we were.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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BlueandYellow
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People aren't putting their opinion down, they're attacking the thread. Voicing your opinion wouldn't mean saying he's always bitching or what the fuck is the point of this thread.

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powerplayer
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
But when someone disagrees with your opinion on a team and has different outlooks, you tend to get butt hurt and throw out all this BS about it and not have a reasonable discussion.

It's not the first time it's happened anyway.

I'm optimistic about our team, but I don't go around saying everyone who is pessimistic about it is unreasonable for it like you said we were.


I guess I just find it ironic that so many here scream bloody murder when Miller is out and a backup is in, no matter the season! Yet, when another team has a backup in, well, then it makes no difference in that team's ability to stop goals or PP scoring. How many times have you seen losses in the past disclaimed because the Sabres "backup" was in net? Can a normal person even count that high? Very curious indeed.

You just can't have it both ways if you intend on having a reasonable discussion about where this team is at and exactly HOW good they REALLY are and WHAT does need to be changed before the season has progressed too far.

The team is certainly playing better right now, but is not at a level where they could beat any of these top teams they just played in a 7-game series, especially with the starter in net.

Wanna improve that situation? Call Darcy and remind him that the backups were in net for MOST of this last 6-game run.


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Skyline_BNR34
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I don't believe it at all, we are 5-1-1 currently. We beat three of the best teams in the NHL right now. As far as I can tell, they can skate with anyone regardless who is in net.

You don't like it, well stop saying it's unreasonable and you're just being a "realist" with this team and let us have our optimism without anyone trying to say we're being unreasonable to feel this way.

You see what I'm saying, if someone is optimistic let them be and don't try and rain on their parade by telling them how you think they should feel about the team.

Anyone could see this team is playing hard and tough right now, and the last four games in a row, we still played the three best teams in the league and got 3 wins out of those 4 games regardless who was in net, With Washington it wouldn't matter who was in net, that team could win with Toskala in net the whole year and still be number 1 in the East.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

Rud wrote:
As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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