At this point in time it doesn't really matter, when it becomes the last 10 games it is really important.

I know we can always look back and find out where we could do better in our schedule and everything, but for us getting points is the most important thing right now.

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are you so stubborn that this really came out of your mouth?

POINTS ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT, FROM DAY 1

Bingo! A win gets you the same amount of points in October as in April. And a loss in regulation gets you zero in both months too.

Whatever, teams have bad stretches throughout a season, if we don't make the playoffs it's because of the beginning of the season. It's still early enough in the season to not have to win every game remaining to even make it in.

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Apparently I need to explain your own argument to you, and then explain why it's completely busted. Your assertion was that a high percentage of overtime wins and thus a low percentage of regulation wins) suggests that a team is not a playoff contender/good team/whatever.

My assertion was that the percentage of overtime/regulation wins does not correlate with anything. I was right. You do realize that the percentage of OT/SO wins is the inversion of the percentage of regulation wins, right? (This seriously isn't difficult.) Subtract all the OT/SO number from 100% and you have each playoff team's percentage of regulation wins and the conversation is exactly the same:

Some teams had a large percentage of their wins come in regulation and made the playoffs, some teams had a large percentage of their wins come in regulation and missed the playoffs.

Some teams had very few of their wins come in regulation, and made the playoffs. Some teams had very few of their wins come in regulation and they missed the playoffs.


OT, SO, Regulation, it doesn't matter how you win a game, all that matters is you win it. Hell, the two Stanley Cup Finals teams came from opposite end of the spectrum. Philadelphia finished 85.4% of their defeated opponents in regulation (5th most). They almost never needed overtime to win. Chicago finished off only 71.2% of their defeated opponents in regulation (9th least). The needed overtime to win quite often. And they won the cup.

Busted.
Destroyed.
Killed.

OT, SO, Regulation. It doesn't matter how you win a game, all that matters is that you win it. The fact that the Sabres have needed overtime and the SO a lot to win games means nothing. It's the fact that they haven't been able to win enough at all that means something. So what you should have said was Ugly stat, in 28 games, the Sabres only have 11 wins total.

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"Apparently I need to explain your own argument to you, and then explain why it's completely busted. Your assertion was that a high percentage of overtime wins and thus a low percentage of regulation wins) suggests that a team is not a playoff contender/good team/whatever."

I stopped reading after that, because that wasn't my assertion at all. If a team isn't winning much in regulation, they probably aren't playing well and probably not making the playoffs. The seasons's still early though and Buffalo does have time to catch up if they get their act together.

I have to disagree and go back to my point that when you win in regulation, you keep your opponent from earning any points. Since teams play the vast majority of their games against teams from their own conference (and even more against teams in their own division), that means most games it's just as important to keep your opponent from getting points as it is to get points yourself. Having 100 points doesn't mean anything if there are 8 other teams with more. So too, getting 85 points isn't bad if there are only 6 or 7 teams in your conference that get more.

It DOES matter how you get your points. When you win in OT, 3 points are awarded in that game instead of two. That makes every point worth less IMO.

It's not rocket science.

Regulation win : AWESOME
OT Win : Not as awesome
SO Win : Significantly less awesome
OT Loss : Sucks
SO Loss : Still sucks
Regulation loss : Sucks harder

SF1980, if your overall assertion is that a team not winning much in regulation is a team not playing well, then you made the most obvious point in the history of hockey commentary.

Squanto = Winner!!!

That's why my initial post was one sentence, and why I said this topic shouldn't have gone to the second page. 6/28 (7/29) just looks ugly...that's all! But instead we get pages of stat charts and angry responses saying how 6/28 doesn't mean something that somebody erroneously thought I meant.

This place is a riot sometimes!

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I just want to know what happened to our snipers?

I mean Roy, Vanek, and Pominville used to bury chances that they whiff on now.

I mean Pominville used to be deadly skating in the zone with the puck on his stick...and it wasn't just b/c he used to draw the #2 D pairing from and opponent.

That's why tonight on the assist on one of Stafford's goals, I was hoping it was purposely shooting wide on some sort of set play as he looked about 10 wide on his shot/pass.

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If your having goal problems, I feel bad for ya son....we got 99 problems but Vanek ain't one!

Everyone whiffs on chances, ever play hockey and whiff a perfect chance you had? Stafford's first goal was because Roy's shot hit iron and bounced back, not exactly a whiff, and Vanek, don't complain about him whiffing on chances this year, he is our leading goal scorer and found his passing touch and scoring touch again.

Pominville, well I agree, he is starting to hit the net more this year, and needs to start scoring real soon.

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