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 Post subject: Re: BOS vs BUF 12/15
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 8:19 am 
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I said they could, of course 1 or 2 other teams have to start losing.
Finishing 2010 with 40 points would be decent considering the slow start. 10 points out of 6 games is very ambitious though.

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First, Miller, playing to far out and gave away what I call a softie. No biggy, but it put them up by one.
He definitely was out of position. The 4 Sabres Ryder skated thru to get that goal didn't help either.
Not a good play in the defensive zone at all.


That wasn't a softie at all, are you kidding?

The defense can't allow Ryder to walk right in like that. Miller is in the right position to challenge the shooter, where he normally is. The defense needs to do their job and put a body on him, not allow him to get through and change the angle. I don't think Miller expected his defense to just let him walk in like that, so he ended up in a bad position.


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That wasn't a softie at all, are you kidding?

The defense can't allow Ryder to walk right in like that. Miller is in the right position to challenge the shooter, where he normally is. The defense needs to do their job and put a body on him, not allow him to get through and change the angle. I don't think Miller expected his defense to just let him walk in like that, so he ended up in a bad position.

For real....everyone said that was a bad goal but did you see how Ryder skated through like 4 of our guys before he took the shot? Miller always challenges his shooters by playing far out of his net, it's just how he plays.

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 Post subject: Re: BOS vs BUF 12/15
PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:20 pm 
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5 wins in a row are not enough to earn a playoffspot. :? have a look at the conference standings. ugly

So what? They have to keep winning. It's the only way.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:26 pm 
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It wasn't a soft goal, but it's one Miller could stop if he stepped up to challenge and then moved backwards with the shooter.

He kind of held right where he was, and without any momentum heading back to his goal, he had no chance to make the stop.

I think he was really surprised (as he should have been) that Ryder was able to get through the D like that and he didn't have enough time to get himself set up.

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at least Buffalo 3 Boston 2 :)

friday and saturday 4 points games !

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Um.....I'm not saying shit....we won against Boston. I'm happy.

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I'm not complaining. It was a tough play. Just saying.

I'm really happy we got the win.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Squanto wrote:
slesh wrote:
First, Miller, playing to far out and gave away what I call a softie. No biggy, but it put them up by one.
He definitely was out of position. The 4 Sabres Ryder skated thru to get that goal didn't help either.
Not a good play in the defensive zone at all.


That wasn't a softie at all, are you kidding?

The defense can't allow Ryder to walk right in like that. Miller is in the right position to challenge the shooter, where he normally is. The defense needs to do their job and put a body on him, not allow him to get through and change the angle. I don't think Miller expected his defense to just let him walk in like that, so he ended up in a bad position.

No, I'm not kidding actually.
Ryder was hauling full speed, watch the video, over and over again like I did. Ryder went into the zone (leaving Hecht in the dust on his way in) then flew by Montador (who did nothing but put his stick weakly in front of him), Leopold was heading out of the zone and couldn't build enough speed up to catch him once he turned around, Pomminville was standing still over by the boards at the blueline. Ryder drifted across the slot to his right (Miller's left) untouched by Montador, Miller should have backed into the crease to cover more area as he got closer.

I agree with PSP and you Squanto. He did come out to cut down the angle, and PSP is correct, it was a mistake not to back into the crease a bit as Ryder came across the slot. It was a weak goal in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 7:12 pm 
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slesh wrote:
Squanto wrote:
slesh wrote:
First, Miller, playing to far out and gave away what I call a softie. No biggy, but it put them up by one.
He definitely was out of position. The 4 Sabres Ryder skated thru to get that goal didn't help either.
Not a good play in the defensive zone at all.


That wasn't a softie at all, are you kidding?

The defense can't allow Ryder to walk right in like that. Miller is in the right position to challenge the shooter, where he normally is. The defense needs to do their job and put a body on him, not allow him to get through and change the angle. I don't think Miller expected his defense to just let him walk in like that, so he ended up in a bad position.

No, I'm not kidding actually.
Ryder was hauling full speed, watch the video, over and over again like I did. Ryder went into the zone (leaving Hecht in the dust on his way in) then flew by Montador (who did nothing but put his stick weakly in front of him), Leopold was heading out of the zone and couldn't build enough speed up to catch him once he turned around, Pomminville was standing still over by the boards at the blueline. Ryder drifted across the slot to his right (Miller's left) untouched by Montador, Miller should have backed into the crease to cover more area as he got closer.

I agree with PSP and you Squanto. He did come out to cut down the angle, and PSP is correct, it was a mistake not to back into the crease a bit as Ryder came across the slot. It was a weak goal in my opinion.


There's plenty of blame to go around for that goal, anytime a guy beats your entire team and makes it look incredibly easy in the process, well, there's plenty of blame to go around. But the most important thing is how the Sabres responded, and in fact did so TWICE in this game. That's very encouraging, because they were on the other end of those goals earlier in the season.

It's a long season, plenty of shit has gone wrong and will continue to do so, but as long as they are finding ways to win it's all good.

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