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Leighton went in because of injury. He'd didn't go in because a coach felt a rookie was a better option than a Vezina trophy winning goaltender.


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which doesn't mean there aren't more exceptions


Difference being that the Sabres have a top-flight, tier 1, and elite goalie. What did the Flyers have? Brian Boucher?

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PatGreen wrote:
which doesn't mean there aren't more exceptions




exactly.

and i know miller goes back in as soon as the bruise isn't irritating anymore, but i'd be ok riding it out with jhonas. sorry, yall.



also, per wgr, miller is out again tomorrow.


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as ive already said, come playoff time, i want enroth in net for the pirates. nothing against him, i feel he is playing wonderfully, and im drinking the kool-aid. but its millers team, and if its millers team, id rather enroth get playoff time in portland, rather then bench time in buffalo. plus, use that roster spot on someone who can help if need be.

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Squanto wrote:
Leighton went in because of injury. He'd didn't go in because a coach felt a rookie was a better option than a Vezina trophy winning goaltender.




but that IS why enroth is in right now. and he's playing pretty damn good.


plus, original reports had miller coming back by tomorrow. he's not gonna be... so maybe we need to look at the situation right now as, "its ok if miller needs to sit out a game or two of the first round if he's injured, because our backup can handle it"


that's it. miller injury free= miller in. but lets not rush him, k?


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shedoesntgetit wrote:
plus, original reports had miller coming back by tomorrow. he's not gonna be... so maybe we need to look at the situation right now as, "its ok if miller needs to sit out a game or two of the first round if he's injured, because our backup can handle it"


that's it. miller injury free= miller in. but lets not rush him, k?



Who the hell is rushing him? All I've ever said is that when Miller is healthy, he's going to start. I never said he should be rushed back in, or anything of the sort.

What I take issue with is people suggesting that Enroth should start over a healthy and ready to play Miller. That's crazy.

We've spend the last 5 years complaining because we haven't had a decent backup. As soon as we get one, everyone wants to throw the franchise goalie in the shitter and ride the backup 70 games. That makes NO SENSE.


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Leighton was forced into action because of injuries, he wasn't put there because they wanted him there, they had no other options.

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shedoesntgetit wrote:
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because the Penguins appear to have a great deal of confidence against Miller, and Enroth might be able too get them thinking about their shots more. For lack of a better example it's kind of like how some baseball teams have a lineup that is built to succeed against certain handedness or styles of pitchers. So, maybe you put your knuckle ball guy in there in place of your cy young guy to eff with their heads and keep them off balance. sure it takes balls to do that, but I think the logic is sound.


That works in baseball, but it doesn't fly as much in hockey. Play your best players all the time.




yeah, but miller still isn't practicing.

so do you go with a goalie thats getting hot, or with the elite goaltender who will be coming back from an injury, potentially on little to no practice?



If Miller can play you play him, if you take off on the hot goalie thing then Miller will get really could.

But I still see no reason to not play Enroth over Miller vs. the Pens. People using history as a defense aren't acknowledging Miller's history with the Pens.

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The Sabres have a history with the Pens. Miller is only one part of it.

I distinctly remember Darius Kasparaitis scoring an overtime cupcake against Hasek from somewhere in the vicinity of my seats in the 300 level. Many Sabres teams have fared poorly against the Pens.


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Squanto wrote:
The Sabres have a history with the Pens. Miller is only one part of it.

I distinctly remember Darius Kasparaitis scoring an overtime cupcake against Hasek from somewhere in the vicinity of my seats in the 300 level. Many Sabres teams have fared poorly against the Pens.



Hasek was never that bad against the Pens well at least not in the way of letting up so many soft goals, and those Pens teams were way more talented and wide open style. Even the Lang-Straka-Kovalev line is better offensively than anything the Pens have thrown out during the Crosby era, to say nothing of Lemieux and Jagr on the same line.

The soft goals Miller gives up against that team are more than noteworthy, they are a concern. And I for one don't like using the playoffs as a stage to slay personal demons, get that monkey off your back in the regular season.

Maybe starting Miller is the best option, but i would be quick to go to Enroth. And against that team and only that team, I would feel better with Enroth in a game 7.

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Squanto wrote:
Leighton went in because of injury. He'd didn't go in because a coach felt a rookie was a better option than a Vezina trophy winning goaltender.

Leighton was also not a rookie, just pointing that out also.

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No need for violence, just tell her she's got a game misconduct and show her the door.

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As I said in the GDT, the call on Rivet was horseshit. The Bruins player was holding onto Rivet's stick like it was the last fucking raft on the Titanic.


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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
as ive already said, come playoff time, i want enroth in net for the pirates. nothing against him, i feel he is playing wonderfully, and im drinking the kool-aid. but its millers team, and if its millers team, id rather enroth get playoff time in portland, rather then bench time in buffalo. plus, use that roster spot on someone who can help if need be.



I don't want Enroth in net for the pirates.

I want Enroth on the bench, backing up Miller, so that we have a capable goaltender between the pipes just in case something happens.

Last thing I want to see is the Sabres lose a playoff game because swiss cheese Lalime came in and got torched.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
as ive already said, come playoff time, i want enroth in net for the pirates. nothing against him, i feel he is playing wonderfully, and im drinking the kool-aid. but its millers team, and if its millers team, id rather enroth get playoff time in portland, rather then bench time in buffalo. plus, use that roster spot on someone who can help if need be.



I don't want Enroth in net for the pirates.

I want Enroth on the bench, backing up Miller, so that we have a capable goaltender between the pipes just in case something happens.

Last thing I want to see is the Sabres lose a playoff game because swiss cheese Lalime came in and got torched.


i keep trying to think this way, but i cant. i feel enroth getting playoff experience in the AHL is more valuable to him, and the sabres then him opening the door on the bench. AHL playoff success has escaped enroth (though, i have no clue if hes a reason for this) and i feel that team could make a deep run. and with him backstopping it, its ideal, IMO.

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Squanto wrote:
The Sabres have a history with the Pens. Miller is only one part of it.

I distinctly remember Darius Kasparaitis scoring an overtime cupcake against Hasek from somewhere in the vicinity of my seats in the 300 level. Many Sabres teams have fared poorly against the Pens.


thats the goal that kills me when i wonder what could have been when it comes to pre-lockout sabres hockey.

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Dwayne Roloson vs Buffalo: 8 GP, 0-6-2, .845 S%, 4.06 GAA and he's getting pooped on again tonight...maybe there is something physchological too this whole certain teams beating up on certain goalies thing?

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Squanto wrote:
3 potential answers.

1. No.

2. Not a chance.

3. No way in hell.

Ryan Miller is your number 1 goaltender. Period. If he's healthy, he goes. Period. What happens in the past has no bearing on what might happen in the future.


In my (most humble) opinion, that mentality is fucking stupid. I'm pretty sure when they consistently beat him, we can expect them to continue to. Kind of like Miller VS the Leafs...

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The fucking faggot Penguins have no chance of making the 2nd round, thus making this point moot. IT'S PLAYOFF TIME GUYS, NO MORE PANZY ASS THREADS!

It's time to bleed blue and gold. Right now, the only reason for the Buffalo Sabres to exist is to win these fucking playoffs. Period!

Fuck the Pens, either goalie will swamp their weak asses behind our team! and ya, Matt Cooke can suck my dick too! If that scumbag hurts any of my Sabres...

Sorry, but I'm excited. Playoff parties are in order. Start planning them NOW!!!!


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Oh ya, playoffs aren't the regular season. THAT IS ALL.


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