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DieHardFan
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:00 pm 
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No shutouts since January 3rd of last season, a span of 53 games, including 6 playoff games. Wow. Timmy Thomas has 5 shutouts in last 15 games.

I know it's not THE major criteria for a goaltender's success, but that's gotta be eating at him, at least a little. Long time for an elite goaltender to go without a goose egg... That does concern me.


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DieHardFan wrote:
No shutouts since January 3rd of last season, a span of 53 games, including 6 playoff games. Wow. Timmy Thomas has 5 shutouts in last 15 games.

I know it's not THE major criteria for a goaltender's success, but that's gotta be eating at him, at least a little. Long time for an elite goaltender to go without a goose egg... That does concern me.

Ehhh, its fine, as long as we win, I really dont care.

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Shutouts mean nothing.

It's wins that matter.


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Well thanks to you, he probably won't ever get another one.

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DieHardFan wrote:
No shutouts since January 3rd of last season, a span of 53 games, including 6 playoff games. Wow. Timmy Thomas has 5 shutouts in last 15 games.

I know it's not THE major criteria for a goaltender's success, but that's gotta be eating at him, at least a little. Long time for an elite goaltender to go without a goose egg... That does concern me.

When will Miller get a shutout?
No Time in the near future.
But this is not important at all. Whats important are the victories.
Lets embrace the path we must take to be contenders. Its nice to think that these things should come to pass, but whats even nicer is a playoff run.

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After Patrick Lalime gets one. :P

With the way the defense has come on lately, I wouldn't be surprised if it was sooner rather than later.

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I don't care if he never gets one again, I wouldn't trade 100 wins for 100 shutouts, wait a minute...

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Squanto wrote:
Shutouts mean nothing.

It's wins that matter.


Yes, they absolutely do mean something. They build confidence and pride in a goaltender AND the team's defense AND extra drive. You want to keep that streak going. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but Miller built his Vezina year last year primarily upon his play during the first half of the year, when he had 5 shutouts, and it was his and the team's strong defensive play during the first half of the year that led the Sabres to a division title. During the 2nd half of the year, when the team was playing .500 hockey, coincidentally there were no shutouts. This season, no shutouts, average hockey team so far, not yet in a playoff position.

When a player scores a goal, it creates confidence and relaxation. The same thing happens when a goalie gets a shutout. I'll take a 4-2 win like last night's any time, don't get me wrong, but I like this team's chances a whole lot more if Miller and the D get shutouts now and then.


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one season, we won a championship, and i was named to the all-star team, and i had 0 shut outs. shut outs look nice on the resume, but wins matter.......








and save percentage :P

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
one season, we won a championship, and i was named to the all-star team, and i had 0 shut outs. shut outs look nice on the resume, but wins matter.......








and save percentage :P


And GAA. Very telling and important stat for goaltenders. ;)

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When will Miller get another shutout?


TONIGHT!

Book it. :snooty:

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
one season, we won a championship, and i was named to the all-star team, and i had 0 shut outs. shut outs look nice on the resume, but wins matter.......








and save percentage :P


And GAA. Very telling and important stat for goaltenders. ;)


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Miller has never ever ever been a shutout machine.
On the contrary he usually figures out a way to blow them at the last moment.

It means nothing.
Miller had 5 last year putting him in 7th place for shutouts...then he won the Vezina trophy.

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DieHardFan wrote:
Yes, they absolutely do mean something. They build confidence and pride in a goaltender AND the team's defense AND extra drive. You want to keep that streak going. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but Miller built his Vezina year last year primarily upon his play during the first half of the year, when he had 5 shutouts, and it was his and the team's strong defensive play during the first half of the year that led the Sabres to a division title. During the 2nd half of the year, when the team was playing .500 hockey, coincidentally there were no shutouts. This season, no shutouts, average hockey team so far, not yet in a playoff position.

When a player scores a goal, it creates confidence and relaxation. The same thing happens when a goalie gets a shutout. I'll take a 4-2 win like last night's any time, don't get me wrong, but I like this team's chances a whole lot more if Miller and the D get shutouts now and then.

lol so you think the reason we started off poorly is because Miller wasn't getting any shutouts? Your logic makes no sense, sorry.

The team isn't thinking in the back of their minds, "Oh no...Miller hasn't been getting any shutouts lately! We're DOOMED!!!!"

Shutouts are nice, but they aren't going to destroy a team's confidence if their goalie isn't getting many.

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Miller will get a shutout when he fucking wants to damnit. :D

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DieHardFan wrote:
Squanto wrote:
Shutouts mean nothing.

It's wins that matter.


Yes, they absolutely do mean something. They build confidence and pride in a goaltender AND the team's defense AND extra drive. You want to keep that streak going. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but Miller built his Vezina year last year primarily upon his play during the first half of the year, when he had 5 shutouts, and it was his and the team's strong defensive play during the first half of the year that led the Sabres to a division title. During the 2nd half of the year, when the team was playing .500 hockey, coincidentally there were no shutouts. This season, no shutouts, average hockey team so far, not yet in a playoff position.

When a player scores a goal, it creates confidence and relaxation. The same thing happens when a goalie gets a shutout. I'll take a 4-2 win like last night's any time, don't get me wrong, but I like this team's chances a whole lot more if Miller and the D get shutouts now and then.



Dude...he won the freaking VEZINA TROPHY last season, and to take it even another step above that, which doesn't even need to be done, but I will, because I like creating run-on sentences, it was one of the 10 greatest individual goal-tending seasons of all time, maybe even top 5, he doesn't need to build confidence and pride by having a shut out, he needs to win a Stanley Cup.

And besides, he shut out the Devils in regulation and what did that get him. A loss, that's what! If you ask me they need LESS shut outs and more wins!

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