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powerplayer wrote:

It's amazing the shit that mods let others get away with saying to me, meanwhile I get warnings left and right for daring to hurt the feelings of some of the delicate little flowers on here.


There's other places you can go if you don't like how things are ran here. Nobody has a gun to your head. It's also the way you convey your ideas as gospel rather than opinion.

Take this as constructive criticism, personally I've got very little beef with anyone here. But the Mods are here, keeping things much more peaceful and productive than they've been on other forums, and in the past. Also, you're kinda newish here, and like any community, if the new guy comes in and pushes the buttons of the long standing members, they mods typically will back those that have been here longer.

Think of it this way, if some dude moved in next door to you after you've been there 10 years, and started having wild parties, and parked infront of your house, and continued to disrupt the flow of things, wouldn't you get irked as well? You've been there a while, and the new guy shouldn't be disrupting the order of things.

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powerplayer wrote:
sabresrocker56 wrote:
Once again, powerplayer comes in and ruins our fun like a wet blanket.


Why are you being such a jerk? Read around the boards. There are comments similar to mine.

You don't find it frustrating that this team only decides to put the pedal to the metal this late in the game (meaning series)?

I have paid mucho $$$ to these guys over the years ($350 just tonight) so I have a right to fucking comment and vent frustration. Who are you to tell me what comments I'm allowed to make?

Whatever man.



While your comment in this thread was harmless, you have earned a reputation for coming into positive threads with negativity, or starting negative threads.

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Dreakon
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powerplayer wrote:
I have paid mucho $$$ to these guys over the years ($350 just tonight) so I have a right to fucking comment and vent frustration.

Methinks someone needs to learn the difference between the words "right" and "privilege". This site (aka, forum to comment and vent) is run, maintained and I imagine financed by a fan, just like me and you. I have to think the money you spend on your Sabres tickets and perhaps refreshments at the arena has little bearing on what you have the right to do or say around here. Golisano could join these forums and be banned on the same day if the staff deems it necessary for the good of the forums. And you know what? There's not a gosh darn thing he could do about it... unless he opts to pay the right people off I'm sure... ;)

Not that you've done anything ban-worthy really, just for future reference as you seem a little confused.

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powerplayer
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Dreakon wrote:
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I have paid mucho $$$ to these guys over the years ($350 just tonight) so I have a right to fucking comment and vent frustration.

Methinks someone needs to learn the difference between the words "right" and "privilege". This site (aka, forum to comment and vent) is run, maintained and I imagine financed by a fan, just like me and you. I have to think the money you spend on your Sabres tickets and perhaps refreshments at the arena has little bearing on what you have the right to do or say around here. Golisano could join these forums and be banned on the same day if the staff deems it necessary for the good of the forums. And you know what? There's not a gosh darn thing he could do about it... unless he opts to pay the right people off I'm sure... ;)

Not that you've done anything ban-worthy really, just for future reference as you seem a little confused.


I am not the least bit confused between "right" and "privilege". When I said I had the "right to comment" any way I want, I meant in general, irrespective to whatever double standards are applied on the various clique-y fan boards around the internet. If that causes me to be banned from this or any site, then so be it.

I don't really care if others are unhappy with my oipinions or the way I word them. Get over it. Yes, I *earned* the right to say whatever the hell I want because I put my money where my mouth is as far as the SUPPORT that REALLY MATTERS. You could be the biggest fan in theory, but you gotta pay the team's bills or they're GONE.

I contribute mightily to supporting this product and am not pleased with the mentality of some of the decision makers involed in the process.


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Squanto
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The mods aren't here 24/7. We have lives you know, and this gig doesn't pay the mortgage.

I'm assuming sabresrocker edited his comment after you quoted it. Had we seen it, something would have been said about it. That's why we ENCOURAGE people to use to 'Report a post' button that's found on EVERY SINGLE POST. That way, we are alerted to things when they happen. We can't read everything;the alerts show us there's a problem somewhere we need to address.

Stop thinking that you're being singled out or somehow persecuted. You don't know who else we PM and ask to tone things down, nor do you need to. Worry about yourself. You do deserve some credit for refraining from the personal shots after you were asked to. We thank you for that.

Just don't flip every time someone does something you think is a double standard. Trust me, we try to be as fair as possible.


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i dont think powerplayer is that bad. hes like me, cool in good times, cool in the bad times. keeps an even keel. doesnt want anyone to get too down, or too up.

hes actually pretty hockey savvy and i find myself agreeing with him more often then not. doesnt mean i love any of you less, just seems to me hes pretty even across the board, and we need more of that here.

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Dreakon
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powerplayer wrote:
I don't really care if others are unhappy with my oipinions or the way I word them. Get over it. Yes, I *earned* the right to say whatever the hell I want because I put my money where my mouth is as far as the SUPPORT that REALLY MATTERS. You could be the biggest fan in theory, but you gotta pay the team's bills or they're GONE.

Right, but respect those who offer you the opportunity to express and voice your opinions, and respect their rules. That's all. Your $350 night out doesn't mean shite here (nor will it in most places) if people think you're a problem.

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Dreakon wrote:
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I don't really care if others are unhappy with my oipinions or the way I word them. Get over it. Yes, I *earned* the right to say whatever the hell I want because I put my money where my mouth is as far as the SUPPORT that REALLY MATTERS. You could be the biggest fan in theory, but you gotta pay the team's bills or they're GONE.

Right, but respect those who offer you the opportunity to express and voice your opinions, and respect their rules. That's all. Your $350 night out doesn't mean shite here (nor will it in most places) if people think you're a problem.


I wasn't violating ANY rules! That's just the point! There is a double standard applied in the way some others interpret and respond to things I write. And because there have been MANY $350 nights spent on this team, I DO have a bought-and-paid-for right to my opinion. I support this team in a way that goes a lot farther than lip service.

You can blow smoke up the Sabres ass all you want, that's your perogative, but I choose to be more realistic and rational in my analysis of the situation(s), that's your perogative. But don't try to bitch-slap me for my opinion while at the same time preventing me from responding in kind. THAT'S bush league.

By the way, it doesn't surprise me that WGR's Paul Hamilton is unpopular around here: He's too fucking honest about these situations. So is Gleason. So is Sullivan. I enjoy those guys because they aren't just homers. They compliment what deserves complimenting and call the team out on the things they should be called out on.

Amen.


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Some people are positive, some people are negative, some people try to stay even keel, and some people are all over the place. The combination of these persons and their opinions is what makes a message board great.

Hell, I've gotten into it with PP and I've agreed with him at times, too.

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Come on boys, just win a game for all the Buffalo fans in Boston. Support your roadies!

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Dreakon
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powerplayer wrote:
I wasn't violating ANY rules! That's just the point! There is a double standard applied in the way some others interpret and respond to things I write. And because there have been MANY $350 nights spent on this team, I DO have a bought-and-paid-for right to my opinion. I support this team in a way that goes a lot farther than lip service.

You can blow smoke up the Sabres ass all you want, that's your perogative, but I choose to be more realistic and rational in my analysis of the situation(s), that's your perogative. But don't try to bitch-slap me for my opinion while at the same time preventing me from responding in kind. THAT'S bush league.

By the way, it doesn't surprise me that WGR's Paul Hamilton is unpopular around here: He's too fucking honest about these situations. So is Gleason. So is Sullivan. I enjoy those guys because they aren't just homers. They compliment what deserves complimenting and call the team out on the things they should be called out on.

Amen.

*sigh*

I'm not saying you did violate any rules, that part of my post was really just a general statement. I don't follow your actions close enough to really comment on what you do, nor do I care enough to do so. However, you did (in this thread) come across as an entitled cry-baby the second someone made a disagreeable comment towards you. Alas, I commented on that fact and how you really don't have the right to say anything on the internet... not unless you own the forum in which you speak... and even then certain laws may still apply.

You have a bought-and-paid-for right to your opinion, but not the right to speak it. ;) In summary.

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Squanto
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powerplayer wrote:
I wasn't violating ANY rules! That's just the point! There is a double standard applied in the way some others interpret and respond to things I write. And because there have been MANY $350 nights spent on this team, I DO have a bought-and-paid-for right to my opinion. I support this team in a way that goes a lot farther than lip service.

You can blow smoke up the Sabres ass all you want, that's your perogative, but I choose to be more realistic and rational in my analysis of the situation(s), that's your perogative. But don't try to bitch-slap me for my opinion while at the same time preventing me from responding in kind. THAT'S bush league.

By the way, it doesn't surprise me that WGR's Paul Hamilton is unpopular around here: He's too fucking honest about these situations. So is Gleason. So is Sullivan. I enjoy those guys because they aren't just homers. They compliment what deserves complimenting and call the team out on the things they should be called out on.


You can spend $350 for all 41 home games if you want. That doesn't afford you any more 'rights' than some of our high school folks that have never spent a dime on a ticket, a jersey, whatever. That money you spend is YOUR discretionary entertainment spending. YOU chose to spend that money; nobody is forcing you. It certainly may make you want to complain when things don't go well, but it doesn't afford you any additional 'rights' as you seem to think.

Everyone here as a right to their opinions. Nobody's opinion is better or worse than any pother opinion. If people want to be reasonable and rational, cool. If they prefer to look at the team through rose colored homer glasses, that's fine too. If people want to be uber-negative, ok.

You're not being muzzled, bitch slapped, or whatever you want to call it. Honestly, I tend to agree with a good chunk of what you have to say. Others don't.

If you're looking for a message board where everyone agrees and has the same opinion as you, this isn't the place for you. We have a lot of folks that have different views and perspectives, and we all manage to disagree and debate without getting our panties in a wad. (Well, Mike DOES get his panties in a wad, but he's into that sort of thing.)


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Squanto wrote:
If you're looking for a message board where everyone agrees and has the same opinion as you,


I would like to just point out that the message board that Squanto is speaking of, does not exist. Anywhere.


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(Well, Mike DOES get his panties in a wad, but he's into that sort of thing.)


im a sexual deviant. what can i say? boosh.

i know people have been critical of powerplayers posting, id like to say i enjoy his posting, and hope hes around for a while.

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Squanto wrote:
powerplayer wrote:
I wasn't violating ANY rules! That's just the point! There is a double standard applied in the way some others interpret and respond to things I write. And because there have been MANY $350 nights spent on this team, I DO have a bought-and-paid-for right to my opinion. I support this team in a way that goes a lot farther than lip service.

You can blow smoke up the Sabres ass all you want, that's your perogative, but I choose to be more realistic and rational in my analysis of the situation(s), that's your perogative. But don't try to bitch-slap me for my opinion while at the same time preventing me from responding in kind. THAT'S bush league.

By the way, it doesn't surprise me that WGR's Paul Hamilton is unpopular around here: He's too fucking honest about these situations. So is Gleason. So is Sullivan. I enjoy those guys because they aren't just homers. They compliment what deserves complimenting and call the team out on the things they should be called out on.


You can spend $350 for all 41 home games if you want. That doesn't afford you any more 'rights' than some of our high school folks that have never spent a dime on a ticket, a jersey, whatever. That money you spend is YOUR discretionary entertainment spending. YOU chose to spend that money; nobody is forcing you. It certainly may make you want to complain when things don't go well, but it doesn't afford you any additional 'rights' as you seem to think.

Everyone here as a right to their opinions. Nobody's opinion is better or worse than any pother opinion. If people want to be reasonable and rational, cool. If they prefer to look at the team through rose colored homer glasses, that's fine too. If people want to be uber-negative, ok.

You're not being muzzled, bitch slapped, or whatever you want to call it. Honestly, I tend to agree with a good chunk of what you have to say. Others don't.

If you're looking for a message board where everyone agrees and has the same opinion as you, this isn't the place for you. We have a lot of folks that have different views and perspectives, and we all manage to disagree and debate without getting our panties in a wad. (Well, Mike DOES get his panties in a wad, but he's into that sort of thing.)


If you read what actually goes on between me and certain nameless posters, you'll find that what I write sometimes pisses people off, then they flagrantly insult me for my opinion and I respond in kind. That is where the trouble starts---in the same way that the reactor in hockey is the one who ends up with the penalty. I react, but am blamed for the incident. It's ridiculous.

Here's an idea:
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If somebdy doesn't like my opinion, just IGNORE IT, instead of insulting ME. That way, I won't have to insult YOU and then get warned for reacting!


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powerplayer wrote:
If you read what actually goes on between me and certain nameless posters, you'll find that what I write sometimes pisses people off, then they flagrantly insult me for my opinion and I respond in kind. That is where the trouble starts---in the same way that the reactor in hockey is the one who ends up with the penalty. I react, but am blamed for the incident. It's ridiculous.

In this particular thread, I believe the person called you a wet blanket. Just so everyone is aware of the flagrant insult that started this one.

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powerplayer wrote:
Squanto wrote:
powerplayer wrote:
I wasn't violating ANY rules! That's just the point! There is a double standard applied in the way some others interpret and respond to things I write. And because there have been MANY $350 nights spent on this team, I DO have a bought-and-paid-for right to my opinion. I support this team in a way that goes a lot farther than lip service.

You can blow smoke up the Sabres ass all you want, that's your perogative, but I choose to be more realistic and rational in my analysis of the situation(s), that's your perogative. But don't try to bitch-slap me for my opinion while at the same time preventing me from responding in kind. THAT'S bush league.

By the way, it doesn't surprise me that WGR's Paul Hamilton is unpopular around here: He's too fucking honest about these situations. So is Gleason. So is Sullivan. I enjoy those guys because they aren't just homers. They compliment what deserves complimenting and call the team out on the things they should be called out on.


You can spend $350 for all 41 home games if you want. That doesn't afford you any more 'rights' than some of our high school folks that have never spent a dime on a ticket, a jersey, whatever. That money you spend is YOUR discretionary entertainment spending. YOU chose to spend that money; nobody is forcing you. It certainly may make you want to complain when things don't go well, but it doesn't afford you any additional 'rights' as you seem to think.

Everyone here as a right to their opinions. Nobody's opinion is better or worse than any pother opinion. If people want to be reasonable and rational, cool. If they prefer to look at the team through rose colored homer glasses, that's fine too. If people want to be uber-negative, ok.

You're not being muzzled, bitch slapped, or whatever you want to call it. Honestly, I tend to agree with a good chunk of what you have to say. Others don't.

If you're looking for a message board where everyone agrees and has the same opinion as you, this isn't the place for you. We have a lot of folks that have different views and perspectives, and we all manage to disagree and debate without getting our panties in a wad. (Well, Mike DOES get his panties in a wad, but he's into that sort of thing.)


If you read what actually goes on between me and certain nameless posters, you'll find that what I write sometimes pisses people off, then they flagrantly insult me for my opinion and I respond in kind. That is where the trouble starts---in the same way that the reactor in hockey is the one who ends up with the penalty. I react, but am blamed for the incident. It's ridiculous.

Here's an idea: If somebdy doesn't like my opinion, just IGNORE IT, instead of insulting ME. That way, I won't have to insult YOU and then get warned for reacting.


Use the report post button instead of paying people back. Once again, there's a right way and a wrong way to do this, and adding fuel to the fire by replying and being snippy is not the right way.

You aren't the only one we talk to (as Squanto has said) about being snippy. Those people are nameless as thats their right. I know times can get tense, and we can't always be here to catch everything and for that reason the "report a post" button was created by PHPBB.

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As I've repeated multiple times, USE THE REPORT A POST BUTTON IF SOMEONE TAKES A SHOT AT YOU. It's that simple. When you do, it puts this nice red icon next to the thread, the post, and in the moderator panel. That catches our attention even if we haven't caught up on all the threads yet.

I'm trying not to sound like a dick, but cmon man. "He started it!!" is such a childish excuse. I also don't understand this fascination with the mysterious forum code that says you MUST retaliate if you are somehow slighted.

Let the mods deal with handling folks that start things. Don't do it yourself. It just adds to the problem.


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As I've repeated multiple times, USE THE REPORT A POST BUTTON IF SOMEONE TAKES A SHOT AT YOU. It's that simple. When you do, it puts this nice red icon next to the thread, the post, and in the moderator panel. That catches our attention even if we haven't caught up on all the threads yet.

I'm trying not to sound like a dick, but cmon man. "He started it!!" is such a childish excuse. I also don't understand this fascination with the mysterious forum code that says you MUST retaliate if you are somehow slighted.

Let the mods deal with handling folks that start things. Don't do it yourself. It just adds to the problem.


I agree.

THe whole "he started it" thing IS childish.

But what do you do if HE STARTED IT, and you are blamed?

Okay, the report button. Ready.


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But what do you do if HE STARTED IT, and you are blamed?

Okay, the report button. Ready.


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