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Sabresfansince1980
 Post subject: Re: So what's the plan?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:40 pm 
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Hmmm, I doubt Leopold would have much pull with anyone significant. If McKee came back and Butler or Sekera got traded that would be great. I still don't see McKee as anything more than a #6 or #7 man, but he's much more reliable than those guys.

I sure would like a trade for Burns, but I'd take ANY move that pushed one of those two off the full roster.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Hmmm, I doubt Leopold would have much pull with anyone significant. If McKee came back and Butler or Sekera got traded that would be great. I still don't see McKee as anything more than a #6 or #7 man, but he's much more reliable than those guys.

I sure would like a trade for Burns, but I'd take ANY move that pushed one of those two off the full roster.



I'm sure that information could be revealed during discussions with Regier, Leopold, or his agent. but seeing as how he is not a high profile player, no journalist is going to waste time asking him about his other offers. But, if you look around at some of the rosters and their cap space, there's a bunch of teams that could use a guy with his talents. You might come to find out that he chose Buffalo (I wouldn't, it's fucking cold up there) because of the opportunity for more playing time or something like that.

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From the Buffalo News...

"We're comfortable with where we are, and we'll have to see how it plays out over the summer whether we can improve in those areas," he said. "You'll see a continuation of the free-agent market through [today] and beyond, but as generally happens, [opening day] is the big one, then it slows to a trickle. I think you'll see that, then I think you'll see a secondary trade market come in. We'll follow that closely to see if we can do something in those areas to make this team better."

"We were pursuing a couple of forwards that we had offers in on, and we had hope that they would decide to play in Buffalo. They've chosen to play elsewhere," said Regier, who will continue his search and didn't rule out a roster-shaking trade. "We're open to it, but there's nothing sitting on the front burner at this time."
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Hmmmm...I wonder who those forwards were. Oh, and again this confirms that Regier can't just make players want to play in Buffalo, no matter what he offers. But anyway, trade offers will be in the works, and hopefully one can be worked out.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:28 pm 
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frolov anyone?

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He's being pursued by the Rags, and he's the antithesis of a Lindy Ruff player.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
frolov anyone?


No thanks. The guy is just like Kotalik, very lazy

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Is Jay McKee a UFA again???

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frolov is much better then kotalik.

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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
frolov is much better then kotalik.


I don't know, Frolov was healthy scratched quite a bit last year. I 'd say they are equal but that just me.

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If Buffalo pursued any forwards today, I'm assuming that the players Darcy referred to actually signed with other teams today, as opposed to just stating they weren't going to Buffalo. I'd guess that could be Whitney, Cullen, or Armstrong.


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The Sabres were talking to Whitney today. It was widely reported.

I had hopes they'd be talking to Guerin, honestly.

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mechaphil wrote:
The Sabres were talking to Whitney today. It was widely reported.

I had hopes they'd be talking to Guerin, honestly.

Maybe they still are. We shall see tomorrow. Guerin probably won't be left out there and he's willing to go places other than Pittsburgh. I would love to see Wild Bill Guerin with the Sabres.

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http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/3 ... cemen.html

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"I started off with the expectation that we would have to acquire a defenceman," Regier said. "So we feel as though we're in a much better position now."

Regier acknowledged he all but ruled out re-signing Tallinder, but held out hope of luring back Lydman.

With both gone, Regier is confident minor league defensive prospects Mike Weber and potentially Marc-Andre Gragnani are ready to play at the NHL level next season.

Regier said he's not done retooling the Sabres, and will attempt to pursue a forward in free agency or through a trade.


Looks like Regier is done messing with the defense.

Sorry, but Lydman & Tallinder out and Leopold & Weber/Gragnani in is NOT an upgrade.

And we get 3 years of Leopold @ $3M per.....

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Why not play Weber with Myers?

Myers-Weber
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Because Weber is still green and hasn't proven he can handle first pair NHL minutes yet.

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I hate to be an ass, but has ANYONE on this roster proven they can handle first pair minutes? I don't know much about Leo, and I'm not sure about Rivet. Certainly not anyone else we have.

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Van_Da_Man wrote:
I hate to be an ass, but has ANYONE on this roster proven they can handle first pair minutes? I don't know much about Leo, and I'm not sure about Rivet. Certainly not anyone else we have.



They do have this kid named Myers, he won some award or something a couple of weeks ago, and he played more than 23 minutes a game.

Last year Leopold logged over 22 minutes a game for the Penguins and Panthers, He's not going to win the Norris this year, but he does bring a good all around game. He's a good penalty killer, power play point man, and he's very reliable at even strength. In my opinion he's a slight improvement over Tallinder who went on to make more money elsewhere.

Butler was less than stellar playing 20 minutes a game for the Sabres last season, but he's only entering his 3rd NHL season so there's reason to suggest that he could become a more consistent performer for the Sabres if he plays 20+ minutes again. Definite question mark.

Montador is a reliable and experienced defender who is well conditioned to playing 15-17 ESM/game. His lack of special team contributions keeps his overall ice-time way down. You have to go back to 05-06 when he logged any significant amount of penalty killing time, but another :30 seconds or so on average probably wont make or break the season. He could become more of a regular on the second power play unit now as well. 20+ minutes might be a stretch for a player of Montador's talents, but this upcoming season is a contract year for the 30 year old and I'm sure he would welcome the added responsibilities to show that he is worth a more lucrative contract. The only question is whether or not he will make the most convincing argument to Lindy Ruff.

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I'm expecting this to start the year:

Leopold-Myers
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Butler/Sekera-Rivet

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Jim Bob wrote:
I'm expecting this to start the year:

Leopold-Myers
Weber-Montador
Butler/Sekera-Rivet


Sorry but how many teams is that defensive core gonna scare? Leopold, Montador, and Rivet would be most teams 5th or 6th defenseman. And Butler and Sekera more like 6th or 7th defenseman.


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Rivet, when healthy, is a top 4 d-man on all but the most defensively-stacked teams. You're just really fucking negative.

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