Uh, I wasn't referring to this season at all... I was referring to the quotes that a user posted above...and what many fans have been saying over the past few years regarding Vanek's performance.

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Hockey Night in Buffalo

It's only 2 games and we won 1. Don't forget Miller and the team played a VERY physical and hard game yesterday. Back to back games.

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"Counting all the assholes in the room, I'm definitely not alone!" ~ Michael Poulsen, Volbeat, Still Standing.

ok. then....

but Has Lindy kept the producing Vanek-line(s) ?

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All they gotta do is trade Vanek for Malkin.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

If our coach, who has been playing hockey his entire life, and has spent more time in the NHL than most of us have been alive, thinks that moving Vanek to another line is going to help him be better, I'll accept that decision.

Well, with all due respect to Ruff it doesn't take a hockey guru to see that the results for Vanek have not been there in the first two games. Zero points and a -5. Only Roy is getting any kind of real ice time, everybody's IT is way down. Vanek is playing only slightly more than Hecht. Is Ruff trying to protect his "china-doll"?

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

If you listened to any pre-game interviews, Lindy said he was trying to spread out ice time because this first stretch of games were very tight and compressed.

This might be the worst argument I've ever heard, 6 games in 9 nights; Ruff is playing everyone equally, so that we dont wear down our 1st two lines, and have no scoring in the 5th and 6th game of this stretch.

Also, Vanek is no where near a china doll, the dude played with internal bleeding, broken ribs, and a sprained wrist last year, for the better stretch of 25 games.

Also, he's hit 2 posts this season, that could have easily been goals, and he also was robbed by Leclaire's leg pads twice in the Ottawa game, he could have 4 goals on the season, and nobody would be saying a thing about him.

Sometimes you are just unlucky, and he's been rather unlucky this season, and far from invisible. Also, that -5 could easily be a -2 if you take away the "bad bounce" goals he was on the ice for. And the empty netter last night as well.

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Squanto 7/27/2010

Taking a slap shot to the face and having some dude step on the tendons and muscles in your leg and slice them up isn't injury prone. The assertion that being injured a lot automatically makes someone injury prone is so shallow and short sighted it's almost unconscionable.

Injury prone is skating with your head down and getting lit up on a daily basis, or getting raped in a corner consistently because you don't know how to protect yourself. If anyone is injury prone on the team, it's connolly, kaleta, and Gaustad. And if anyone deserves to unfairly be labeled injury prone, it's pominville who plays like such a fucking woman sometimes, I have to wonder if he's just playing not to get hurt.

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I don't think he should be moving Vanek around already. It's been only 2 freaking games, and he's put himself in position to make a LOT of plays. So why line jumble??? Ok, so they were flat for part of 1 game. Give 'em a chance to fight through it, ffs. Let's face the facts. This team will probably never have solid lines. Just old ones he likes to go back to sometimes. What was our last truly solid line?? Ward-Peca-Varada?????

I don't care if Lindy is the 'hockey mind'. I don't like the decision. You know he's gonna go back to Roy-Stafford-Vanek soon, anyways.

You guys are just plain ridiculous. You think maybe Lindy knows his player a little better than you do? Vanek was visibly frustrated after not burying chances in the first game. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he put Vanek back with Roy and Stafford to take his mind away from dealing with new linemates for a little while? It's not an unreasonable maneuver. It's fairly common.

Every line gets juggled on every team at one point or another in every level of hockey. It's a complete non-issue and people jump on Lindy for just so they have something to bitch about. He'd actually be a worse coach if he left the lines the same if they weren't producing. Doing the same thing with the same people is never going to magically produce different results.

Some coaching decisions are reasonable to question. For example, why leave your goalie pulled with a PP down 2 before you get possession after a draw? If you lose the draw and miss an assignment you go down 3 and put the game out of reach. That's a legitimate complaint.

But all this fucking kvetching over line changes is just stupid. Lindy knows his players. He knows what he wants to happen. He's making changes for a reason, and unless any of you guys are assistant coaches, you don't know what that is.

It has been two games.

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Oh shit, If Ruff is trying to make Change, he's OBAMA!!!!

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I knew he had a reason. Let's see if the results (regardless of the final score) are better today.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

Got it. But the other day I heard Ruff was padding Vanek's gear with bubble wrap. Not hatin', just sayin'.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

I think that elite athletes want to play their ice time regardless of the scheduling challenges, and with some players that helps them get into and stay into condition. Not only is the ice time down but they are taking shortcuts on the ice. They are 1-1, and played like shit in the second game. I'll give it a couple more games before doubting Ruff.

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"I love that you know how to do that." Cheryl/Carol/Crystal

"And I love that I have an erection that doesn't involve homeless people." Kreiger

Keeping Vanek in status quo that produces no results - bad idea.

Trusting Ruff, who knows the game, to make positive corrective changes for Vanek to produce - good idea.

Have a problem, go jump off a cliff - good idea.

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Let's go Buffalo!

Keeping Vanek in status quo that produces no results - what s the status quo ,what line do u mean?
Trusting Ruff, who knows the game, to make positive corrective changes for Vanek to produce - of course lindy never fails.

Have a problem, go jump off a cliff - good idea. yes? really? how was it? ...... waaaah....ouch.

PS: laughing prolongs your life

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The goals will come for Vanek, I don't think anyone doubts that. There will be 2 game stretches where players do not score, and this is one of them. He'll probably reach 40 this year. Would it have helped in the Rangers game? Probably, but we were getting our asses kicked.

Now the disturbing part of it is there have been 557 players to skate in the NHL this year and Vanek is 557th in plus minus. But again, I do agree, it's only been two games.

You've got to go with Ruff's decision. As fly said, if Vanek (or others) begin producing on a certain line, they'll stay there, it just hasn't happened yet.

I do think he'll pot one or two tonight.

Wtf is with this 'not producing' shit. It's been 2 games. That's my issue. Vanek looked great the 1st game, and then by game 2 you people are claiming he got moved around for 'lack of production'. I think you made that up yourselves. 1/2 of a poor game is not a 'lack of production'. 2 GAMES!