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BlueandYellow
 Post subject: Re: Darcys done?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:02 pm 
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The frustration stems from the simple idea that we could be doing more.

Darcy's not the type of GM that goes out and makes moves that turns heads. Not once have I ever heard an analyst come out and say, "By making these moves, it's safe to assume that Buffalo is going for a Stanley Cup."

Yet we all know, while Darcy's moves tend to be conservative, they often pay pretty big dividends.

No one thought Steve Montador was going to play the way he did for us last season... especially during the playoffs.

I think Darcy knows what he's doing to build a good hockey team. I'm not convinced yet though, that when he's almost got all of the pieces in place, that he's got the stones to drop the bomb we need to take a good honest run.

Time will tell.


Well, he really doesn't have to make a Kovalchuk like signing, I would be content with a forward that can produce decent numbers. A 50 point guy would be fine. Hell, even a 40 point guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Darcys done?
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mechaphil wrote:
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I'm sick of ignorant fans talking out of their ass about how Darcy has failed when we're ONE FUCKING WEEK into free agency!

So, in a way, I'm telling him his opinion chews chode.

Did I not FUCKING say, if Darcy is FUCKING done, I am not happy? Holy fucking SHIT! This is a thread about Darcy being DONE with free agency!

I'm not saying he failed! I'm saying, without a point producing forward, this FREE AGENCY did not go well. Of course, ONE WEEK INTO FREE AGENCY IS NOT THE END OF FREE AGENCY. Darcy can still do shit if he feels it's necessary! Of course, you jump on me and attempt to insult me, because Darcy is Muhhammed!

I'm saying that until the season starts, free agency is still in effect. So, for you or anyone to imply that Darcy is done when there are still THREE MORE FUCKING MONTHS LEFT is ludicrous.


And I'm not saying he is done. I'm saying, if he CHOOSES to be done with these results or similar, it's not going to work out.

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mechaphil wrote:
I'm saying that until the season starts, free agency is still in effect. So, for you or anyone to imply that Darcy is done when there are still THREE MORE FUCKING MONTHS LEFT is ludicrous.


Would it shock you if Regier were done?

It wouldn't shock me a year after his "big" moves were adding Montador & Grier and he's already added Leopold & Niedermayer.

I'd love it if Regier made a sizable move or two. But, I'm not expecting it to happen given Regier's approach to building a team the past few off seasons.

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 Post subject: Re: Darcys done?
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Sabres won the division last season on the tweaks of jettisoning some flotsam (Paetsch, Paille), letting a rookie defenseman run wild, and acquiring two savvy vets (Montador, Grier). The plan last season was to make the playoffs. It was a success.

This year he adds a savvy vet and replaces two departing FA defensemen with a cheap, statistically-comparable stay-at-home d-man and a cheap (as compared to Tallinder) offensive d-man with less giveaways. Everything else remains the same, except for the increase in competitiveness among the top six and the increase in ass-kicking ability on the fourth line. The plan this year will be to get further in the playoffs than the first round and with the increase in leadership, competitiveness, general health, and cohesion, so I'd say that so far this off-season is a success.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
The frustration stems from the simple idea that we could be doing more.

Darcy's not the type of GM that goes out and makes moves that turns heads. Not once have I ever heard an analyst come out and say, "By making these moves, it's safe to assume that Buffalo is going for a Stanley Cup."

Yet we all know, while Darcy's moves tend to be conservative, they often pay pretty big dividends.

No one thought Steve Montador was going to play the way he did for us last season... especially during the playoffs.

I think Darcy knows what he's doing to build a good hockey team. I'm not convinced yet though, that when he's almost got all of the pieces in place, that he's got the stones to drop the bomb we need to take a good honest run.

Time will tell.


Well, he really doesn't have to make a Kovalchuk like signing, I would be content with a forward that can produce decent numbers. A 50 point guy would be fine. Hell, even a 40 point guy.


Why? Without Ennis and Kennedy, we already had 6 40-point producers at the end of last season, 5 of the 6 being forwards. With the addition of Kennedy and Ennis to the top six, we potentially have two more. I don't think signing anybody was Darcy's top priority for this reason.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
The frustration stems from the simple idea that we could be doing more.

Darcy's not the type of GM that goes out and makes moves that turns heads. Not once have I ever heard an analyst come out and say, "By making these moves, it's safe to assume that Buffalo is going for a Stanley Cup."

Yet we all know, while Darcy's moves tend to be conservative, they often pay pretty big dividends.

No one thought Steve Montador was going to play the way he did for us last season... especially during the playoffs.

I think Darcy knows what he's doing to build a good hockey team. I'm not convinced yet though, that when he's almost got all of the pieces in place, that he's got the stones to drop the bomb we need to take a good honest run.

Time will tell.


Well, he really doesn't have to make a Kovalchuk like signing, I would be content with a forward that can produce decent numbers. A 50 point guy would be fine. Hell, even a 40 point guy.


Niedermayer is a 60 point guy...

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 Post subject: Re: Darcys done?
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
The frustration stems from the simple idea that we could be doing more.

Darcy's not the type of GM that goes out and makes moves that turns heads. Not once have I ever heard an analyst come out and say, "By making these moves, it's safe to assume that Buffalo is going for a Stanley Cup."

Yet we all know, while Darcy's moves tend to be conservative, they often pay pretty big dividends.

No one thought Steve Montador was going to play the way he did for us last season... especially during the playoffs.

I think Darcy knows what he's doing to build a good hockey team. I'm not convinced yet though, that when he's almost got all of the pieces in place, that he's got the stones to drop the bomb we need to take a good honest run.

Time will tell.


Well, he really doesn't have to make a Kovalchuk like signing, I would be content with a forward that can produce decent numbers. A 50 point guy would be fine. Hell, even a 40 point guy.


Niedermayer is a 60 point guy...


I'm confused...

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
The frustration stems from the simple idea that we could be doing more.

Darcy's not the type of GM that goes out and makes moves that turns heads. Not once have I ever heard an analyst come out and say, "By making these moves, it's safe to assume that Buffalo is going for a Stanley Cup."

Yet we all know, while Darcy's moves tend to be conservative, they often pay pretty big dividends.

No one thought Steve Montador was going to play the way he did for us last season... especially during the playoffs.

I think Darcy knows what he's doing to build a good hockey team. I'm not convinced yet though, that when he's almost got all of the pieces in place, that he's got the stones to drop the bomb we need to take a good honest run.

Time will tell.


Well, he really doesn't have to make a Kovalchuk like signing, I would be content with a forward that can produce decent numbers. A 50 point guy would be fine. Hell, even a 40 point guy.


Niedermayer is a 60 point guy...


...in 1995

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Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote:
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I swear. We got rid of Two D men, and got one that isn't even that better than them. Then we bring weber up, and sign Rob Niedermeyer, who scored 10 goals and 12 assists. NOT A LOT DONE.


You really can't see past stats, can you?


Wait a second....stats tell the whole story though don't they?

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
Niedermayer is a 60 point guy...


If you add up his last 3 seasons, sure.


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Lol, it was a joke. Are there any 40-50 point guys out there that aren't a fucking horrible idea cost-wise?

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What if he's waiting to see what the kiddies can do at the prospect camp before he makes a drastic signing of a top 6 forward. Maybe one of the prospects can be that guy for us instead of having to sign an outsider. We all know Darcy likes to build from within.

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I put in 4 hours of work overnight, my sarcasm detector is too tired to function. :)


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HelloMyKneeGrows wrote:
Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
I swear. We got rid of Two D men, and got one that isn't even that better than them. Then we bring weber up, and sign Rob Niedermeyer, who scored 10 goals and 12 assists. NOT A LOT DONE.


You really can't see past stats, can you?


Wait a second....stats tell the whole story though don't they?


Well, you would think, but there's that whole work away from the puck issue that nobody seems to understand.

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mechaphil wrote:
B&Y -
Sabres won the division last season on the tweaks of jettisoning some flotsam (Paetsch, Paille), letting a rookie defenseman run wild, and acquiring two savvy vets (Montador, Grier). The plan last season was to make the playoffs. It was a success.

This year he adds a savvy vet and replaces two departing FA defensemen with a cheap, statistically-comparable stay-at-home d-man and a cheap (as compared to Tallinder) offensive d-man with less giveaways. Everything else remains the same, except for the increase in competitiveness among the top six and the increase in ass-kicking ability on the fourth line. The plan this year will be to get further in the playoffs than the first round and with the increase in leadership, competitiveness, general health, and cohesion, so I'd say that so far this off-season is a success.


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BlueandYellow wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
B&Y -
Sabres won the division last season on the tweaks of jettisoning some flotsam (Paetsch, Paille), letting a rookie defenseman run wild, and acquiring two savvy vets (Montador, Grier). The plan last season was to make the playoffs. It was a success.

This year he adds a savvy vet and replaces two departing FA defensemen with a cheap, statistically-comparable stay-at-home d-man and a cheap (as compared to Tallinder) offensive d-man with less giveaways. Everything else remains the same, except for the increase in competitiveness among the top six and the increase in ass-kicking ability on the fourth line. The plan this year will be to get further in the playoffs than the first round and with the increase in leadership, competitiveness, general health, and cohesion, so I'd say that so far this off-season is a success.


(Miller)


Miller makes up a good part of this team, but it's not like we have absolutely nothing.

You think your opinion is the end all be all, and it just isn't. Like I said sarcastically in another thread, you're not good enough. You're just not.

(I'm still saying it sarcastically, by the way.)

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Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
B&Y -
Sabres won the division last season on the tweaks of jettisoning some flotsam (Paetsch, Paille), letting a rookie defenseman run wild, and acquiring two savvy vets (Montador, Grier). The plan last season was to make the playoffs. It was a success.

This year he adds a savvy vet and replaces two departing FA defensemen with a cheap, statistically-comparable stay-at-home d-man and a cheap (as compared to Tallinder) offensive d-man with less giveaways. Everything else remains the same, except for the increase in competitiveness among the top six and the increase in ass-kicking ability on the fourth line. The plan this year will be to get further in the playoffs than the first round and with the increase in leadership, competitiveness, general health, and cohesion, so I'd say that so far this off-season is a success.


(Miller)


Miller makes up a good part of this team, but it's not like we have absolutely nothing.

You think your opinion is the end all be all, and it just isn't. Like I said sarcastically in another thread, you're not good enough. You're just not.

(I'm still saying it sarcastically, by the way.)


All I'm doing is saying what I think. I never say I'm absolutely right, I am saying WHAT I THINK. I think it's pretty pathetic the way people just get so frustrated with me and insult me when I voice my opinion.

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For me, I'm done with this topic. If I even try and post here people drop the topic and get pissed because they like to express anger over the internet.

Come on Darcy, pick up a forward.

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