I know; I was just keeping it as civil as I can.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

You know all to well oh great Howie!!!

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"If you want to know what I've been doing lately, I've been driving around from Tim Horton's to Tim Horton's, rolling up the rim. Haven't won anything yet. Thanks." - Lindy Ruff

Ehrhoff baby...

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"If you want to know what I've been doing lately, I've been driving around from Tim Horton's to Tim Horton's, rolling up the rim. Haven't won anything yet. Thanks." - Lindy Ruff

Here's an interview with Brian Burke. Go to the 10:13 mark. He talks about NHL GM's and trades. Not good information to hear for Sabres fans. It only furthers the talk about Darcy's ineptness...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PkF8_jiDM&feature=fvsr

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

Facepalm.

Of course hes gonna say it's the other person, you'd hear the same thing from Darcy about Burke.

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Darcy would look foolish saying the same about Brian Burke.

Burke has never had a problem making trades; be it Vancouver, Anaheim, or Toronto.

Darcy has a reputation for overvaluing his players. It has been said for years. Jerry Sullivan talked about it just last week, having spoken to a couple GM's.

Evidence is his inability to make significant deals.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

Those significant deals you are talking about rarely happen, the latest one was only the Kessel deal since the lockout.

You could argue the Kovalchuk deal, but everyone knew he wasn't staying in Atlanta after that year. After that, I don't recall many trades for any players of that significance you're referencing.

Ok, Kessel and Joe Thorton. There is two of them. Burke made one of them, but is it really a win since they lost Tyler Seguin who leads the Bruins offense also?

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Burke is always looking for a trade. Darcy could never say that about Burke, you're crazy. Every time the deadline comes up there is talk about Toronto talking to this team and that team. Usually that is followed up with a trade of some sort. Yeah maybe not a "blockbuster" but it makes his team better. You rarely hear that about Buffalo. When did Buffalo trade one of their core players under Darcy??? I mean truly core forwards???? Darcy believes that Pominville, Stafford, Roy, Hecht can be stanley cup winners. Maybe but not as the top core of a team. No way do I see this group of core players every winning the stanely cup. He needs to suck it up and deal a few of these players but I don't see it. He will never let them go until someone forces his hand.

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Significant does not have to be Gretzky or Messier. First four defensemen, or top six forwards will suffice.

The following significant players have been moved in the last year or two:

Milan Michalek, Wayne Simmonds, Chris Pronger, James Neal, Eric Brewer, Joffrey Lupul, Dennis Wideman, Dustin Byfuglian, Andrew Ladd, Francois Beauchemin, Lubomir Visnovsky, Jeff Carter, Alex Goligowski, Ryan Smythe, Mike Richards, Dany Heatley, Mike Fisher, Brett Burns, Chris Stewart, Nick Peverley, Chris Versteeg, Brian Campbell, and Erik Johnson.

I'm not even counting other players who are at the next level down like Lee Stempniak, Victor Stalberg, Dustin Penner, Jaro Spacek, Brad Boyes, etc...

I'm sure if I went down actual rosters I could come up with a few more. Clearly there can be players moved.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

Remember T. Vaneks shitty season after the then biggest contract ever? Granted Staffords slump is worse then Vaneks that season but I would say it's comparable. Roy pisses me off to no end. He is a one man douche show on the ice.

True but you also have to remember that the weight of the whole team was, unexpectedly, put square on his shoulders after that contract. After being third fiddle for a few years and then being the main attraction can play with peoples mind. That is the only reason why he had a such a shitty season.

Stafford doesn't have that expectation and will never need to worry about it. He was given a great contract because of this amazing but out of the ordinary season. I don't expect to see such production out of him again.

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Can we all agree that Roy needs to be taken behind the shed and given one slug to the dome?

DEFINITELY!!! It would be hard pressed to find a Roy supporter at this point anywhere.

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I've got 2-$145(290) tix to see the Pens on Feb. 19th. Ted Black is asking me to be patient for Gerbe, Ennis, and Myers to return to save our season. I'm not holding my breath. If this team continues down this path there's NO WAY they will beat the Pens that day. Hell, I may not even see Cindy, yet still have watch their no names dominate us again. I may have to field offers on Craigslist, because I don't want to be responsible for buying Roysie another fur coat, or Staffy another 6 sessions of hot yoga. My advice to Mr. Black is keep your fucking mouth shut, and do what's necessary to right the ship. The Sabres claim their fans are knowledgeable, so act like it then. We don't need to be coddled. Just get the job done, and you won't have to say a word.

/end rant.

Wow. Just wow.

Am I happy with the current state of affairs? No, I'm not. But unlike you guys, I'm not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We've had a boatload of big injuries thus far this year, and we haven't had enough time for all the additions in this line-up to gel, especially considering all the injuries. You guys must be living very privileged lives to have so little patience with bumps in the road.

To address your "insight" sabresindc, I'll tell you exactly who would be interested in Roy right now. That would be every GM in the league who could get him for what you, jammerz, patkane, Howie and ksquier have proposed as trades. Why don't you guys get a room already? While you're at it, why don't you get a new team?

News flash - this is the fucking NHL. It's not supposed to be easy to win. So why don't you guys jump onto the bandwagon of whatever team you think is up to your standards, and spare yourselves all this angst?

I don't know if we're going to get our shit together this year or not, but we will soon, and all the bitching and moaning and stupid trade ideas aren't going to help us get there one goddamn mili-second sooner. So how about stifling yourselves, or get out? We all know beyond a shadow of a doubt how you guys feel, so how about you guys stop beating the dead horse already?

p.s. - anyone who thinks Brian Burke is anything more than a fucking AWFUL GM must be drunker and stupider than he is, and that's saying something.

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This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it.
--Emerson

Daaaaaaaaaaamn.

.....and thats the second time i got crabs.

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Hey Bagboy; who died and left you in charge? Last I looked, you're neither in charge of what opinions people are entitled to; and neither are you in charge of attaching any moral equivalency to their opinions.

People are entitled to their opinions; whether we agree with them or not.

There's no band wagon in here. Criticizing 15 years of failure to win; or at least trying to win a Stanley Cup is actually extreme patience with this organization. One trip to the final 13 years ago (with a John Muckler built - Dominik Hasek team) does not represent success. hell; it's mediocrity at best.

Privileged lives? I don't think that has anything to do with our ability to judge this team. The team has done nothing better than two first round exits in the last five seasons. They didn't even qualify on two occasions. They are currently out of a playoff position. Even if they get in to a playoff position, they won't do any better than a first round exit in all probability.

The fact that it is the NHL makes it that more essential to win; especially after 15 years of failing to do so. Teams do turn corners, and do win the cup. No Management has been cut a wider berth; no players given longer to mature as players.

If you don't like our opinions; why don't you take your wimpy little post count and leave? We don't need some condescending little bitch to come in here and attack us.

I'd be surprised if some of the others will be as cordial to you in their reply to your childish little diatribe.

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"I'll rap you with my cane; you pencil necked geek!!"

-Bowler, imitating Freddy Blassie, at the very first M & G.

I don't like your opinions about the Sabres. That's why I responded. You don't like my opinions about your opinions. That's why you responded. What's the problem?

Honestly, you should have thought through your repsonse a little more. "Wimpy little post count"? My opinions have less merit because I spout off less than others? Think about it. As for "condesceding little bitch", I'll let that go, because I'll never hear that from you face to face.

As for others giving it to me more than you have, I agree 100% that this will happen. At least there is the hope that my post will make you guys think for a second, instead of spewing some knee-jerk reaction.

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This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it.
--Emerson