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BlueandYellow
PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:12 pm 
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In 2006, we had the opportunity to tie Carolina 3-3 on the power play late in game 7.

No luck.


Campbell's clear the puck over the glass penalty :cry: :cry:


I just about lost it there. :angry-banghead:

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Not reading through the whole thing, but 2006 had nothing to do with special teams.


2006 we were awesome at special teams. But when we were down 3-2 in game 7 against Carolina, we couldn't score on the power play and that ultimately cost us the game.

It's a very similar situation to what happened in these playoffs with our penalty kill. Dominant in the regular season, non existent in the playoffs.

i'd say it was 95% injuries, 5% special teams. and the 95% caused the 5%.


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PatGreen wrote:
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Not reading through the whole thing, but 2006 had nothing to do with special teams.


2006 we were awesome at special teams. But when we were down 3-2 in game 7 against Carolina, we couldn't score on the power play and that ultimately cost us the game.

It's a very similar situation to what happened in these playoffs with our penalty kill. Dominant in the regular season, non existent in the playoffs.

i'd say it was 95% injuries, 5% special teams. and the 95% caused the 5%.


Seems about right.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
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PatGreen wrote:
Not reading through the whole thing, but 2006 had nothing to do with special teams.


2006 we were awesome at special teams. But when we were down 3-2 in game 7 against Carolina, we couldn't score on the power play and that ultimately cost us the game.

It's a very similar situation to what happened in these playoffs with our penalty kill. Dominant in the regular season, non existent in the playoffs.

i'd say it was 95% injuries, 5% special teams. and the 95% caused the 5%.


Seems about right.


It was more than 100% injuries. It was 101% injuries and a cheese sandwich.

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PatGreen wrote:
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PatGreen wrote:
Not reading through the whole thing, but 2006 had nothing to do with special teams.


2006 we were awesome at special teams. But when we were down 3-2 in game 7 against Carolina, we couldn't score on the power play and that ultimately cost us the game.

It's a very similar situation to what happened in these playoffs with our penalty kill. Dominant in the regular season, non existent in the playoffs.

i'd say it was 95% injuries, 5% special teams. and the 95% caused the 5%.


True, but the way I see it, if you have a well coached power play, you should be able to insert many of your players and still be successful.

This team needs to battle on the power play like its five on five. They don't do that, and they haven't done it.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
True, but the way I see it, if you have a well coached power play, you should be able to insert many of your players and still be successful.

This team needs to battle on the power play like its five on five. They don't do that, and they haven't done it.

there's a reason even the best powerplays only have two units. that's because not everyone can play the powerplay. then there's the depth and talent ratio. if you have 5-6 guys out, (3 of which were our top guys, the rest our top defenders) the talent pool gets thin, which means less ability to score. i will accept your argument for 2007 and 2010. 2006 however, you're wrong.


also, there's a reason that teams don't play five on five hockey on the powerplay. it's cause it's five on four, and it doesn't work.


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PatGreen wrote:
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True, but the way I see it, if you have a well coached power play, you should be able to insert many of your players and still be successful.

This team needs to battle on the power play like its five on five. They don't do that, and they haven't done it.

there's a reason even the best powerplays only have two units. that's because not everyone can play the powerplay. then there's the depth and talent ratio. if you have 5-6 guys out, (3 of which were our top guys, the rest our top defenders) the talent pool gets thin, which means less ability to score. i will accept your argument for 2007 and 2010. 2006 however, you're wrong.


also, there's a reason that teams don't play five on five hockey on the powerplay. it's cause it's five on four, and it doesn't work.


Okay, I said this team needs to BATTLE like they do five on five, not play like it's five on five. It comes down to puck pursuit and winning battles.

A power play isn't an opportunity to stop skating hard and dominate. It's an opportunity to skate hard and come up with the puck on most plays because you have a man advantage.

All I know is, we lost to Carolina in game seven after failing to kill a power play to keep us in a good position, and then failed to score on our own power play when we had a chance to tie the game.

Oh and by the way... Roy, drury, briere, dumont, vanek, and all of our other important offensive threats at the time, save connolly, were available at the time. So injuries arent an excuse.

Blame it on injuries if you want, but the cup playoffs are a marathon; not a sprint, and injuries part of the game. The best teams overcome them, and the sabres came damn close. But special teams didn't get the job done for us when we needed them to.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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