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Author:  powerplayer [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Coaching Change
In another thread, someone hypothesized about how Lindy's been around for a long time and for many players, his words may go in one ear and out the other. There may be some truth to that, and based on that theory.....

I am not going to say that Lindy should be replaced, especially since the team is doing a lot better than everybody thought they would do this season, but one of the reasons coaches are changed out fairly often is because it WAKES EVERYBODY UP.

I don't know what kind of job you have, but in my experience, when a new boss comes in, EVERYBODY is on their game, for obvious reasons. You see it around the league: Teams replace their coach and BAM, the team picks up their play. It's not just because of a new coaching philosophy as much as it is people suddenly playing for their job or position in the pecking order.

Again, this is not the time to entertain the idea of a coaching change, but I do wonder how bad things would have to get before Lindy would go.
Author:  Stuuuuuuu [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Last year, that's all you'd hear on Sabres.com. "Lindy has been around too long". "The players don't respond to him". "Lindy just got lucky in 06"

Well, I'm here to tell you that this season has shown me Lindy still has some tricks up his sleeve. I'm not ready to give up on him yet. As far as what would it take to get him fired? There, I'd have to say that if the Sabres don't make the playoffs this year, that would probably do it. And in saying that I mean before the season started, one had to think that if Buffalo missed the playoffs 3 straight year after 2 appearances in the ECF, you'd have to think it's time to let the coach go.
Author:  powerplayer [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Stuuuuuuu wrote:
Last year, that's all you'd hear on Sabres.com. "Lindy has been around too long". "The players don't respond to him". "Lindy just got lucky in 06"

Well, I'm here to tell you that this season has shown me Lindy still has some tricks up his sleeve. I'm not ready to give up on him yet. As far as what would it take to get him fired? There, I'd have to say that if the Sabres don't make the playoffs this year, that would probably do it. And in saying that I mean before the season started, one had to think that if Buffalo missed the playoffs 3 straight year after 2 appearances in the ECF, you'd have to think it's time to let the coach go.


I agree, especially if they don't make it in this year. Fans would go bananas if there was that much of a meltdown in the 2nd half of the season.
Author:  Montalo [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
we do need a change, to be honest

what assistant coach can we get rid of, and replace
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
powerplayer wrote:
In another thread, someone hypothesized about how Lindy's been around for a long time and for many players, his words may go in one ear and out the other. There may be some truth to that, and based on that theory.....

I am not going to say that Lindy should be replaced, especially since the team is doing a lot better than everybody thought they would do this season, but one of the reasons coaches are changed out fairly often is because it WAKES EVERYBODY UP.

I don't know what kind of job you have, but in my experience, when a new boss comes in, EVERYBODY is on their game, for obvious reasons. You see it around the league: Teams replace their coach and BAM, the team picks up their play. It's not just because of a new coaching philosophy as much as it is people suddenly playing for their job or position in the pecking order.

Again, this is not the time to entertain the idea of a coaching change, but I do wonder how bad things would have to get before Lindy would go.


This theory is a poor one. It's been brought up many times, and it gets shot down.

Lets take a look at our roster. We've been able to stay near the top of the league (until lately) with Tim Connolly as our number 1 offensive threat, and as good as he is, a 20 year old rookie as our best defenseman.

Nope. Pretty sure coaching isn't the issue.
Author:  psychemedisabrefan [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
the problem is if you want to go with a coaching change, I would be leary cause lets face the guy you having picking is regier and quinn, and they will not pick a guy like scotty arniel. More than likely they will take one of the assistants and promote them. I mention Arniel because he is a winner in the AHL and if it can work for the Pens. Honestly i wouldn't mind forcing lindy to change an assistant. Say bring in Arniel as an Assistant, and rid of McCutchinson.
Author:  Los9090 [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
0-4 recently and you want Lindy out? Shut up dude... :roll:
Author:  psychemedisabrefan [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
that is why i suggested changing the assistant coach, who know one likes, say Brian McCutcheon. darcy likes his team home grown, why not bring in arniel and if lindy shits the wagon, or decides to quit you have a capable assistant ready to just jump in, already knows the team, and how the owners operate. Sort of like jerry jones and his coach in waiting Jason Garret. just an idea. the giant's told coughlin to fire sheridan, and the bear coach was urged to fire their defensive coordinator, so why not in hockey. rid of an assistant. Heck McGuire had success as an assistant and Arniel is doing good for manitoba. anything is better than Brian McCutcheon.
Author:  Wozniak [ Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Lindy will never get fired. nor will Regier. the establishment that they have set up over the last decade with Quinn has their jobs secured until they decide to quit themselves.
Author:  Jim Bob [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
psychemedisabrefan wrote:
the problem is if you want to go with a coaching change, I would be leary cause lets face the guy you having picking is regier and quinn, and they will not pick a guy like scotty arniel. More than likely they will take one of the assistants and promote them. I mention Arniel because he is a winner in the AHL and if it can work for the Pens. Honestly i wouldn't mind forcing lindy to change an assistant. Say bring in Arniel as an Assistant, and rid of McCutchinson.


I wouldn't be shocked if they went after a guy like Arniel or Mike Ramsey IF say Ruff opts to walk this summer as a FA.

I don't think they see McCutcheon or Patrick as head coaching material.
Author:  daz28 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Los9090 wrote:
0-4 recently and you want Lindy out? Shut up dude... :roll:

Just to be factual, it's 4-10 recently(last 14).

Edit. Some people may get mad, so it's 4-7-3. To me an OT(SO) loss may as well be a loss. You got a point for trying not to lose.
Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
im cool with firing lindy... if scotty bowman comes out of retirement.
Author:  End The Curse [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
im cool with firing lindy... if scotty bowman comes out of retirement.

Been there, done that...didn't work.
Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
that was back in the day. he would be an ace coach still. he won cups with every team he coached except buffalo, i believe.
Author:  Squanto [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
I met Mr. Bowman once. Much shorter than I expected, and a very close talker. Also sprayed a lot. :p
Author:  psychemedisabrefan [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Jim Bob wrote:
psychemedisabrefan wrote:
the problem is if you want to go with a coaching change, I would be leary cause lets face the guy you having picking is regier and quinn, and they will not pick a guy like scotty arniel. More than likely they will take one of the assistants and promote them. I mention Arniel because he is a winner in the AHL and if it can work for the Pens. Honestly i wouldn't mind forcing lindy to change an assistant. Say bring in Arniel as an Assistant, and rid of McCutchinson.


I wouldn't be shocked if they went after a guy like Arniel or Mike Ramsey IF say Ruff opts to walk this summer as a FA.

I don't think they see McCutcheon or Patrick as head coaching material.


so why not bring one in now as an assistant. It's not like you are pushing lindy out the door, just making the assistant coaching staff better. I mean i really want to see McCutcheon fired as i think he is a horrid assistant coach.
Author:  daz28 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
I'd rather see Regier and sir Lawrence replaced before Ruff. Lindy is a good teacher, but DR gives him unlimited space and time. Bring in a new GM that might lean on LR a bit, and offer some NEW ideas how to run the team. A GM/coach tandem with no animosity at all isn't good, just like any soft boss is no good.

my .20
Author:  YankeeInRaleigh [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
daz28 wrote:

my .20


daz, just fyi, .20 is twenty cents. So, you just gave us ten opinions all in one post, you might want to conserve your opinion money a bit in these hard economic times. :)
Author:  daz28 [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
It's a bust on Pat Kane. This isn't the 1st one.
Author:  VanekKing [ Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coaching Change
Let's bring in a position coach.. What position?? Shootouts.. These guys need more moves other thank deek once and shoot at the goalies pads.. F'IN A GUYS!!!!
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