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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I just have the feeling like he'll come back, the guys in the locker room will relax a little, vanek will skate at half speed and be thoroughly ineffective, we lose because we traded enthusiasm and intensity for what is supposed to be our marquee player. I guess I could see Stafford leaving...at this point he really is the most useless mofo in the series. But the grit, effort, speed that Gerbe, McCormick and Ennis are playing with must remain. |
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| Author: | sabresrocker56 [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
YankeeInRaleigh wrote: I guess I could see Stafford leaving...at this point he really is the most useless mofo in the series. But the grit, effort, speed that Gerbe, McCormick and Ennis are playing with must remain. I could not agree more with that statement. That Gerbe-Mair-McCormick line was awesome yesterday. And then Ennis just tore it up with Roy and Pominville, it seemed like Ennis was everywhere at once. |
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| Author: | Dreakon [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
If Vanek can come back at 100%, then I think we should work him back in and somehow work Stafford out. However, if he's anything less than perfect, keep the lines exactly the way they were (and hopefully the intensity). You don't win an important Game 5 playoff game 4-1 if what you have isn't working. Every game is fighting for our playoff lives now, I don't care who comes into the lineup and who leaves, they should be giving it their all every game. Of course, that's just the ideal though. |
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| Author: | CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I agree with the gist of what people seem to be saying, that at the very worst if you insert Vanek for Stafford, you won't really be losing anything. |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I would say that game 6 sees either Vanek (if healthy) or Torres in for Stafford. Everyone was noticeable in a positive way last night EXCEPT Stafford. He was just invisible. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
Why did they ever sit Torres to begin with? He's been one of the 4 or 5 best forwards for Buffalo in the series if you ask me. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I went to the game, and I personally think Stafford was more useful than Connolly. Connolly turned it over because he tries dangling all of the time. When he is able to shoot the puck out of the zone, he tries dangling it out. He's fucking useless, and if he has a foot issue he shouldn't be playing. |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
BlueandYellow wrote: I went to the game, and I personally think Stafford was more useful than Connolly. Connolly turned it over because he tries dangling all of the time. When he is able to shoot the puck out of the zone, he tries dangling it out. He's fucking useless, and if he has a foot issue he shouldn't be playing. Yeah, Connolly has been crappy. Especially considering what his potential is. Did you see him hesitate when handed the puck POINT BLANK in front of the net, wait too long and have his stick checked at the last second so the shot went astray. He seems to have zero confidence right now. Whereas stafford seems to have confidence, but it's completely unfounded because he's fucking useless, without speed or skills. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
even though gerbe was certainly an asset yesterday, vanek proves much more useful then him in a playoff setting. vanek was playing inspired, good hockey before he went down. id rather see mancari up before gerbe. but id rather see hecht in there then anyone. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
Stafford sitting for Vanek is the only change they need to make if Vanek is ready for game six. |
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| Author: | YankeeInRaleigh [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
ironyisadeadscene wrote: even though gerbe was certainly an asset yesterday, vanek proves much more useful then him in a playoff setting. vanek was playing inspired, good hockey before he went down. id rather see mancari up before gerbe. but id rather see hecht in there then anyone. I've been really surprised how much i've missed Hecht in the playoffs, we could really use him right about now as a steadying presence who can win battles along the boards and actually in some way use his size and strength to hold the puck when faced with a physical challenge. |
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| Author: | sixx58 [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I have to quote myself from last night's GDT: "I'd NEVER EVER thought of saying this - but I do miss Jochen Hecht in the line up" |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
Are people just now realizing Hecht has been a very important piece that the Sabres have missed? Right from the get-go, it was apparent Hecht's work along the boards, puck protection, and bad angle scoring ability was badly missed. |
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| Author: | psychemedisabrefan [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
if he is back stafford can always sit. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
mechaphil wrote: Are people just now realizing Hecht has been a very important piece that the Sabres have missed? Right from the get-go, it was apparent Hecht's work along the boards, puck protection, and bad angle scoring ability was badly missed. Seriously. You never hear anyone badmouthing Tallinder anymore. Hecht also had a good season, but it's been so much harder for him to shake off the negative comments. And Hecht did it without the benefit of star rookie as his partner. No love. |
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| Author: | psychemedisabrefan [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
Stuuuuuuu wrote: Why did they ever sit Torres to begin with? He's been one of the 4 or 5 best forwards for Buffalo in the series if you ask me. torres sat because he hasn't scored There is a shot that Ruff was trying to give the young guys a shot. the youth enthusiasm. All torres has offered is grit and McCormick steps in and does more. A lot fo people think he was a trade bust. a big one. |
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| Author: | VanekKing [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I don't want a 90% Vanek.. The guys on both teams are giving it their all and Vanek will only be a problem.. |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
psychemedisabrefan wrote: Stuuuuuuu wrote: Why did they ever sit Torres to begin with? He's been one of the 4 or 5 best forwards for Buffalo in the series if you ask me. torres sat because he hasn't scored There is a shot that Ruff was trying to give the young guys a shot. the youth enthusiasm. All torres has offered is grit and McCormick steps in and does more. A lot fo people think he was a trade bust. a big one. During the season, he did nothing to impress me. But honestly, in the first four games what forwards were better? In my opinion, only Ennis, Grier, and...and... |
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| Author: | Stuuuuuuu [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
...oh and maybe Kennedy. Torres has 2 assists and is a plus 1. That gives him the same amount of points as Roy in one less game (the game Buffalo scored the most goals!), and more points and a better +/- than Connolly or Gaustad. Bring back Raffi!!!!! |
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| Author: | psychemedisabrefan [ Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Am I the only one who doesn't want vanek back for game 6? |
I would have thought stafford to sit. over torres. but maybe there is an injury and he is getting a day to re-cooperate. the youth infusion was for energy. and experience i believe. |
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