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CriminallyVu1gar
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I don't see his size, or lack thereof hurting him at all. In fact he consistently outmuscled one or two larger Bruins for the puck.

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I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


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CriminallyVu1gar
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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


He took that hit from Boychuk and the one from Chara pretty well.

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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


He took that hit from Boychuk and the one from Chara pretty well.


True...but over the course of a season I have to think a small guy getting smashed over and over is going to get proportionately more injured than his larger counterparts. Perhaps thats not a factual correlation to make, but it does seem the intuitive answer.

But hell, despite his size we havent seen those moves since Briere, we'd be fools to want him gone just because of his size.


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Let's see how he handles his first full regular season. It won't be just about size either, he'll have to learn and minimize the rookie mistakes. He'll still have to be somewhat effective on the forecheck, and his size is definitely a disadvantage on the boards. How many puck battles did we lose against Boston? We need players that can win those battles and even dominate sometimes. Ennis won't be that type, but hopefully he can bring enough other skills to be productive.


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Sabresfansince1980 wrote:
Let's see how he handles his first full regular season. It won't be just about size either, he'll have to learn and minimize the rookie mistakes. He'll still have to be somewhat effective on the forecheck, and his size is definitely a disadvantage on the boards. How many puck battles did we lose against Boston? We need players that can win those battles and even dominate sometimes. Ennis won't be that type, but hopefully he can bring enough other skills to be productive.


Yeah but how many did Ennis lose? I don't have a count, but I definitely remember him battling through two Bruins behind the net and coming out with the puck.

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http://nhl.msg.com/photo/07bJ7qcbo65VM 'nuff said.


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Well, it would be a stretch to call him a large, power, or maybe even medium-sized forward.


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He's small.

He's a forward.

What's the problem?

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YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


He took that hit from Boychuk and the one from Chara pretty well.


True...but over the course of a season I have to think a small guy getting smashed over and over is going to get proportionately more injured than his larger counterparts. Perhaps thats not a factual correlation to make, but it does seem the intuitive answer.

But hell, despite his size we havent seen those moves since Briere, we'd be fools to want him gone just because of his size.


Smaller guys have a decidedly difficult time in this league. There are smaller guys who have had longevity, but by and large, over the course of a season or 10, physics will take it's toll.


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I think this guy could be a lot like Marty St. Louis. Hey may not be very big, but he plays with so much heart, determination, and skill, it's scary and dangerous to the other team. I saw a lot of times in this series where it looked for sure like he was going to lose the puck to a much larger defender, and then he came away with the puck. I now it's a cliche, but this kid could stick handle in a phone booth. Once he starts finishing chances like breakaways, he is going to be a big time player for us.

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If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

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I'm guessing in a full 81 games he gets 40-65 points. Maybe more.

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I hope he does not wear 63

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BlueandYellow wrote:
I'm guessing in a full 81 games he gets 40-65 points. Maybe more.

I would go towards the higher end of that range. I think getting in the playoffs the way he did right away to start his career was good experience. He has fantastic work ethic and I can only assume he will work on his game over the summer and into training camp and the season. I am expecting good things from this kid.

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Sabres2Sabres wrote:
If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

If I had decided to jerk off instead, I probably wouldn't be paying child support...


"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"


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powerplayer wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


He took that hit from Boychuk and the one from Chara pretty well.


True...but over the course of a season I have to think a small guy getting smashed over and over is going to get proportionately more injured than his larger counterparts. Perhaps thats not a factual correlation to make, but it does seem the intuitive answer.

But hell, despite his size we havent seen those moves since Briere, we'd be fools to want him gone just because of his size.


Smaller guys have a decidedly difficult time in this league. There are smaller guys who have had longevity, but by and large, over the course of a season or 10, physics will take it's toll.

Really? I remember Gretzky only being 185 and 6 feet tall and scoring 2800 points in his 20 year career.

Ray Bourque, 5'11, only one of the best defensemen of all time, 20 years in the NHL.

Bobby Orr was 5'11, his style of play caused his knees to fail, but it didn't make it difficult for him to play in the league either.

Theo Fleury shortest guy to play in the league, was a PPG player and played for 18 years.

Marty St. Louis 5'9" and is 12 years in the league and is a almost a PPG player.

Danny Briere is also 5'9" NHL claims he is 5'11 which is BS, but he has never really had much trouble playing, recently been injured but before nothing either.

Roy hasn't been injured in his five years either.

Those smaller guys are harder to hit, plus they don't fall as hard as a bigger guy.

I don't see how physics take a toll on these smaller players more, the larger you are the more it will hurt falling and the more pressure and more force you exert on your body. The bigger you are, the more likely you are to develop knee or ankle problems the longer you play.

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He'll put on some weight, which is good.


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He'll put on some weight, which is good.

Him and Myers should bulk up together this summer. Those two and Miller give me hope for next year.

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Sabres2Sabres wrote:
If Miller and Myers were playing like they did last year, we'd probably be over 500 right now.

If I had decided to jerk off instead, I probably wouldn't be paying child support...


"Grier coming in over the line. He leaves it to Gaustad. The shot. THEY SCOOOREE!! RING UP ANOTHER ONE FOR THE GOOSE!!! HONK IF YA HEAR THE GOOSE!! 3-0 BUFFALO!"


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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
powerplayer wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
YankeeInRaleigh wrote:
I suppose it's only relevant when he gets fucking flattened at some point, and is injured basically just because he's small, and got destroyed by some big dude. Other than that I cant see it being too big a detriment.


He took that hit from Boychuk and the one from Chara pretty well.


True...but over the course of a season I have to think a small guy getting smashed over and over is going to get proportionately more injured than his larger counterparts. Perhaps thats not a factual correlation to make, but it does seem the intuitive answer.

But hell, despite his size we havent seen those moves since Briere, we'd be fools to want him gone just because of his size.


Smaller guys have a decidedly difficult time in this league. There are smaller guys who have had longevity, but by and large, over the course of a season or 10, physics will take it's toll.

Really? I remember Gretzky only being 185 and 6 feet tall and scoring 2800 points in his 20 year career.

Ray Bourque, 5'11, only one of the best defensemen of all time, 20 years in the NHL.

Bobby Orr was 5'11, his style of play caused his knees to fail, but it didn't make it difficult for him to play in the league either.

Theo Fleury shortest guy to play in the league, was a PPG player and played for 18 years.

Marty St. Louis 5'9" and is 12 years in the league and is a almost a PPG player.

Danny Briere is also 5'9" NHL claims he is 5'11 which is BS, but he has never really had much trouble playing, recently been injured but before nothing either.

Roy hasn't been injured in his five years either.

Those smaller guys are harder to hit, plus they don't fall as hard as a bigger guy.

I don't see how physics take a toll on these smaller players more, the larger you are the more it will hurt falling and the more pressure and more force you exert on your body. The bigger you are, the more likely you are to develop knee or ankle problems the longer you play.


Yeah but for all those guys there's probably a hundred that didn't pan out.

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I made this point in another thread too... Their size doesn't matter because their offensive abilities and work ethic truly outweigh their weaknesses.

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i like the hit gerbe threw at chara. it didn't look like much damage but i think chara turned his head like not the nose, not the nose.

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