Do I really need to be the asshole who says "budget"?
I agree with fly, we're better off doing as we do. I absolutely think it produces better results.
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| Author: | SabreWolf [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Don't get me wrong, signing Grier, Niedermeyer, Leopold, Morrisonn (the good but unheralded type of player) certainly helps our team. But we're faced with the reality of no star players would want to sign here, and if they did, we would have to overpay. We overpay for some of our signings already (Leopold at $3 million per year, and we had to double Montador's salary for him to come here (not saying it wasn't worth it)). People complained about Regier not going after Gagne, do you honestly think Simon Gagne wanted to come to Buffalo if he could choose, when he could go to Tampa Bay with other French players? |
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| Author: | CriminallyVu1gar [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
do we really need another one of these threads? |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
What CV said. |
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| Author: | PuckSniperPensel [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
We choose not to sign star players. |
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| Author: | fly as hale [ Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Oh, let me think of a team that DOESN'T overpay for a star player. Hm... |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
PuckSniperPensel wrote: We choose not to sign star players. thats not true. |
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| Author: | Seanothan27 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Do I really need to be the asshole who says "budget"? I agree with fly, we're better off doing as we do. I absolutely think it produces better results. |
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| Author: | CriminallyVu1gar [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
How did we get this far into this thread without anyone pointing out that Miller turned down an opportunity to play for his hometown team to sign in Buffalo. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
SON OF A BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:17 am ] |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Almost every team that has a superstar player as we call them, drafted them. Gaborik is a Superstar, but why would he want to play for the trap of the Wild when he could score almost 50 goals a year? Hossa, he's solid, but he isn't what he once was like in Atlanta and Ottawa. Kovalchuk, well we know how that has turned out so far, h wanted a chance for a cup and choose to leave Atlanta. I'd still say many of these superstars aren't signed, they are drafted. Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Stamkos, Green, Sedin, Sedin, Doughty, Myers, Miller, Kane, Toews, and many more out there. But it seems the only way to hit a Star is to either draft them or trade for one, not to sign one in the FA market. This isn't 05-07 where the super talented guys just go on the FA market, there is maybe one or two that can be built upon a year now, if that. Kovalchuk was really the only guy who it that bill, the year before it was Gaborik basically, I don't remember many others out there. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
hossa was no where near what he was in ottawa. |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
So what's the point? Some players will come here, other won't. Some players want to stay once they get here, some want to leave. You know what that makes us? Perfectly normal. |
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| Author: | Jim Bob [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
CriminallyVu1gar wrote: How did we get this far into this thread without anyone pointing out that Miller turned down an opportunity to play for his hometown team to sign in Buffalo. That isn't entirely accurate. Miller took the long term, big money extension in hand that bought out a few UFA years. It's the old one in the hand is worth two in the bush. If he would have signed a lesser extension that didn't buy out UFA years to hit the market earlier there is no guarantee that the Wings would have gone after him. With the guys they have under contract, I doubt they would offer Miller a "market value" deal. Plus, look at how big money goalies have done as UFAs this summer....... Niemi is fresh off winning the Cup and he can't get a job! |
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| Author: | Jim Bob [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
ironyisadeadscene wrote: PuckSniperPensel wrote: We choose not to sign star players. thats not true. A more accurate statement is that the Sabres choose not to go after big money UFAs. |
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| Author: | SabreWolf [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Jim Bob wrote: ironyisadeadscene wrote: PuckSniperPensel wrote: We choose not to sign star players. thats not true. A more accurate statement is that the Sabres choose not to go after big money UFAs. But the fans do. Martin/Michalek/Gagne were on people's wishlists, don't deny it. |
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| Author: | Squanto [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
SabreWolf wrote: But the fans do. There's a reason fans are fans, and GMs are GMs. |
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| Author: | slesh [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Cammellari, Heatley, Thorton, Kessel, Gaborik, Chara. These are only the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Superstars? I guess some of those listed would be considered that for thier respective teams. I agree with the OP though, Buffalo's management is unable to attract a certain level of talent, their reputation proceeds them with the players, but we already knew ths. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
Jim Bob wrote: CriminallyVu1gar wrote: How did we get this far into this thread without anyone pointing out that Miller turned down an opportunity to play for his hometown team to sign in Buffalo. That isn't entirely accurate. Miller took the long term, big money extension in hand that bought out a few UFA years. It's the old one in the hand is worth two in the bush. If he would have signed a lesser extension that didn't buy out UFA years to hit the market earlier there is no guarantee that the Wings would have gone after him. he was kidding, but allow me to say this one more time. miller was never on the red wings radar. they were committed to howard. and just as well, miller grew up in michigan, but stated he didnt grow up a red wings fan. the two sides were not interested in each other. the rumour grew because of a news paper article, might have been the detroit news. the news sucks. im sure miller would have loved the idea of playing in front of his family day in and day out. but buffalo is a 4 hour drive on a bad day from detroit, and from east lansing, its under 5. its not that big a deal, im sure. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The star signing power of Buffalo = Zero. |
slesh wrote: Cammellari, Heatley, Thorton, Kessel, Gaborik, Chara. These are only the ones I can think of off the top of my head. Superstars? I guess some of those listed would be considered that for thier respective teams. I agree with the OP though, Buffalo's management is unable to attract a certain level of talent, their reputation proceeds them with the players, but we already knew ths. Kessel was traded, so he has never been a FA in his career yet. Thorton was also traded from Boston and signed before he became a free agent. Heatley was also traded and wasn't a UFA in his career. Chara, Cammellari, and Gaborik are the only players on that list who went to Free Agency to sign with other teams. The others all agreed to terms with the respective clubs that traded for them. |
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