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When nuclear winter comes, all that will be left are cockroaches, Chris Chelios(notes) and the tag team of Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier still running the show in Buffalo. At least that's what we think ... :lol:

One would tend to wonder how much longer the Ruff and Regier show will last in The Queen City should the Sabres pack up their lockers in April as opposed to late-May/early-June.

2010-11 Preseason Report Card:

Forwards: B
Defense: C+ (The emergence of Myers last year bumps them up a bit...just a bit)
Goaltending: A
Special Teams: C (penalty kill was second last season, but that power play is so-so even with Vanek)
Coaching: B+
Management: B

The Sabres are one of those teams that, for as many times that you want to count them out, they'll prove you wrong. It's easy to think that the defense will take a step back with the losses of Tallinder and Lydman; and that Ryan Miller may not be as awesome as he was a season ago; and wonder if the balanced scoring continue.

After reaching the conference final the first two years after the lockout, the Sabres have just won two playoff games since. They'll always be in the mix as long as Ryan Miller is Ryan Miller. The blue line will be shaken up a bit this season, but the Sabres are hoping that Myers can continue where his rookie season left off.

Buffalo is a team that will challenge for a playoff spot as long as they can remain healthy. One injury could really expose their lack of depth.

Coach/GM
When nuclear winter comes, all that will be left are cockroaches, Chris Chelios(notes) and the tag team of Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier still running the show in Buffalo. At least that's what we think ...
One would tend to wonder how much longer the Ruff and Regier show will last in The Queen City should the Sabres pack up their lockers in April as opposed to late-May/early-June.

Behind maybe two or three players ALL teams are average.

Look at Pittsburgh when they won the cup. Behind Malkin and Crosby scoring every goal, who was there?

Chicago, yes they had better output from others, but most notably, Toews, Kane, Big Buff and Niemi really, anyone else just player their roles.

Even Detroit, behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom they aren't that much, proved this year with their injuries and Osgood just sucking.

We have Miller, Myers, and Vanek as our three guys the team needs to be behind, and that's ok. I still think our defense is much much better then a C- ranking though. The team is solid, great PK and goltending and our defense should be strong. Offense always leaves a little to be desired with, but keep the other team from outscoring you, you got a good chance of winning.

Skyline_BNR34 wrote:

Excellent point. In fact, I will ever take it a step further by adding that because of Miller, and their system, they are more resilient to a few injuries then most teams would be. Not to mention their stellar selection of AHL talent to poll from.

...but it's a results business. Cold, hard, results.

Did he take into consideration Vanek coming back this year and being a beast?

There's no way Vanek doesn't tear it up this season. He's got it locked now.

PuckSniperPensel wrote:

Did he take into consideration Vanek coming back this year and being a beast?

There's no way Vanek doesn't tear it up this season. He's got it locked now.

There's no guarantee that Vanek will be a 'beast' this year. He may have an average year, he may get injured again. He may even be great this season.

No way to know this.

This guy is a moron. He thinks the Sabres are nothing more than the Miller and Myers show. Maybe if he'd watched a few games before giving a review then he'd be able to make a more accurate statement.

Author:	sabresindc [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:28 pm ]
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Puck Daddy previews the Sabres, using wrestling metaphors http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/NHL-2010-11-Season-Preview-Wrestling-with-Buffa?urn=nhl-267395 Love the photoshopped poster Here are some nuggets: Quote: Coach/GM When nuclear winter comes, all that will be left are cockroaches, Chris Chelios(notes) and the tag team of Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier still running the show in Buffalo. At least that's what we think ... *One would tend to wonder how much longer the Ruff and Regier show will last in The Queen City should the Sabres pack up their lockers in April as opposed to late-May/early-June.* 2010-11 Preseason Report Card: Forwards: B Defense: C+ (The emergence of Myers last year bumps them up a bit...just a bit) Goaltending: A Special Teams: C (penalty kill was second last season, but that power play is so-so even with Vanek) Coaching: B+ Management: B Quote: The Sabres are one of those teams that, for as many times that you want to count them out, they'll prove you wrong. It's easy to think that the defense will take a step back with the losses of Tallinder and Lydman; and that Ryan Miller may not be as awesome as he was a season ago; and wonder if the balanced scoring continue. After reaching the conference final the first two years after the lockout, the Sabres have just won two playoff games since. They'll always be in the mix as long as Ryan Miller is Ryan Miller. The blue line will be shaken up a bit this season, but the Sabres are hoping that Myers can continue where his rookie season left off. *Buffalo is a team that will challenge for a playoff spot as long as they can remain healthy. One injury could really expose their lack of depth.*

Author:	BS1970 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 4:55 pm ]
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This guy is a moron. He thinks the Sabres are nothing more than the Miller and Myers show. Maybe if he'd watched a few games before giving a review then he'd be able to make a more accurate statement.

Author:	ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:06 pm ]
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in fairness, after miller and myers, the sabres are an extremely average team. they have some good players, but seriously... hes on the dot.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:21 pm ]
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Behind maybe two or three players ALL teams are average. Look at Pittsburgh when they won the cup. Behind Malkin and Crosby scoring every goal, who was there? Chicago, yes they had better output from others, but most notably, Toews, Kane, Big Buff and Niemi really, anyone else just player their roles. Even Detroit, behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom they aren't that much, proved this year with their injuries and Osgood just sucking. We have Miller, Myers, and Vanek as our three guys the team needs to be behind, and that's ok. I still think our defense is much much better then a C- ranking though. The team is solid, great PK and goltending and our defense should be strong. Offense always leaves a little to be desired with, but keep the other team from outscoring you, you got a good chance of winning.

Author:	SABRESAllTheWay [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:40 pm ]
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Puck Daddy is a good blog. Biased at times, but very manageable bias.

http://www.sabresjunkie.com/forum/

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Author:	X-pensfan [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:25 pm ]
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Quote: Coach/GM When nuclear winter comes, all that will be left are cockroaches, Chris Chelios(notes) and the tag team of Lindy Ruff and Darcy Regier still running the show in Buffalo. At least that's what we think ... One would tend to wonder how much longer the Ruff and Regier show will last in The Queen City should the Sabres pack up their lockers in April as opposed to late-May/early-June. That's kind of funny, and interesting too. I definitely think that the two are intertwined, if one goes the other wont be far behind. I think they are both really great at their jobs, but it's a results business. Cold, hard, results. If the desired result is to win the Stanley Cup, then they are caught in a fan/ownership vice that has been tightening for years. Sooner or later they will get crushed. Or, they could break the vice and win It before it's too late.

Author:	X-pensfan [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:28 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote: Behind maybe two or three players ALL teams are average. Look at Pittsburgh when they won the cup. Behind Malkin and Crosby scoring every goal, who was there? Chicago, yes they had better output from others, but most notably, Toews, Kane, Big Buff and Niemi really, anyone else just player their roles. Even Detroit, behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom they aren't that much, proved this year with their injuries and Osgood just sucking. We have Miller, Myers, and Vanek as our three guys the team needs to be behind, and that's ok. I still think our defense is much much better then a C- ranking though. The team is solid, great PK and goltending and our defense should be strong. Offense always leaves a little to be desired with, but keep the other team from outscoring you, you got a good chance of winning. Excellent point. In fact, I will ever take it a step further by adding that because of Miller, and their system, they are more resilient to a few injuries then most teams would be. Not to mention their stellar selection of AHL talent to poll from.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:15 pm ]
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X-pensfan wrote: Skyline_BNR34 wrote: Behind maybe two or three players ALL teams are average. Look at Pittsburgh when they won the cup. Behind Malkin and Crosby scoring every goal, who was there? Chicago, yes they had better output from others, but most notably, Toews, Kane, Big Buff and Niemi really, anyone else just player their roles. Even Detroit, behind Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom they aren't that much, proved this year with their injuries and Osgood just sucking. We have Miller, Myers, and Vanek as our three guys the team needs to be behind, and that's ok. I still think our defense is much much better then a C- ranking though. The team is solid, great PK and goltending and our defense should be strong. Offense always leaves a little to be desired with, but keep the other team from outscoring you, you got a good chance of winning. Excellent point. In fact, I will ever take it a step further by adding that because of Miller, and their system, they are more resilient to a few injuries then most teams would be. Not to mention their stellar selection of AHL talent to poll from. It is true, most teams are built that way, if not all have a few guys to rely on then the rest the team sorta is just average. I would go about to say who teams relied on who, but simply does it matter too much, you can look at who the team relied on the most and make your own argument.

Author:	powerplayer [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:36 pm ]
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One of the biggest problems with the Sabres is that there still isn't really an offensive go-to guy. Many teams have at least ONE, some even have TWO. I'm talking about a player who you get the puck to in close games, who will much more likely than not, put it between the pipes. Vanek is the closest thing to that, but he's too streaky to really depend on. You can argue about the importance of certain traits in different positions, but having at least one clutch guy is critical, both emotionally and on the scoreboard.

Author:	mechaphil [ Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:12 pm ]
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Leahy is right about the Sabres. An injury to Miller or Myers could be a very bad thing for the team.

Author:	NYIntensity [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:36 am ]
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X-pensfan wrote: ...but it's a results business. Cold, hard, results. Not in Buffalo...

Author:	Squanto [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:46 am ]
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It's not a terrible analysis. It's very fair I's say.

Author:	NYIntensity [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:01 am ]
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I's be agreeing.

Author:	PuckSniperPensel [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:31 am ]
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Did he take into consideration Vanek coming back this year and being a beast? There's no way Vanek doesn't tear it up this season. He's got it locked now.

Author:	SabresFanInNebraska [ Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:52 am ]
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I only read what you posted, but I will agree with other that our D is better than a C-. I mean, no one really knows yet. But based on potential I would give them at least a C+. Another thing off tangent here, I can't understand why so many people sackride LOODS. He played well last year, but he was terrible before that. Seriously, it got to the point where every time he touched the puck I made fun of him lol. He gave it away CONSTANTLY. Blah, anyways, don't forget about Ennis. Obviously we aren't talking D anymore, but this kid could turn out to be a Calder runner or winner himself. I can't wait to see this kid play.

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Author:	Squanto [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:58 am ]
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PuckSniperPensel wrote: Did he take into consideration Vanek coming back this year and being a beast? There's no way Vanek doesn't tear it up this season. He's got it locked now. There's no guarantee that Vanek will be a 'beast' this year. He may have an average year, he may get injured again. He may even be great this season. No way to know this.

Author:	SabreWolf [ Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:21 pm ]
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Squanto wrote: PuckSniperPensel wrote: Did he take into consideration Vanek coming back this year and being a beast? There's no way Vanek doesn't tear it up this season. He's got it locked now. There's no guarantee that Vanek will be a 'beast' this year. He may have an average year, he may get injured again. He may even be great this season. No way to know this. Assumptions save time and in the end, no one will hold you to them.

Author:	fly as hale [ Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:56 pm ]
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BS1970 wrote: This guy is a moron. He thinks the Sabres are nothing more than the Miller and Myers show. Maybe if he'd watched a few games before giving a review then he'd be able to make a more accurate statement. I didn't really get that take from the column... Miller and Myers were clearly our best players on the team last year and they will probably be again next season. He was just emphasizing the importance of them and how much of an impact they have on the team's success. Every team has their best guys, and what he said was really no different when discussing any other team's best players. Although I do think he underestimated our defense... I think we're a little higher than C-.