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Author:  freshtracks [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:22 pm ]
Post subject:  D. Roy - LTIR Replacement $$$?

Does anyone know if Roy's injury status allows the team any cap relief? With a new owner and $4.2M in cap space already, a few million bucks in LTIR relief could make the addition of a difference-maker a real possibility.

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:36 pm ]
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Yea, Roy being on LTIR opens up his annual cap hit to be spent elsewhere.

Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:38 pm ]
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Cap hit. Unfortunately, not the actual money out of BTG's pocket. And since all Buffalo moves have to be dollar for dollar...

Author:  Squanto [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:31 pm ]
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There isn't going to be any moves made for any reason with the sale of the team on the near horizon.

Author:  jvaccaro6 [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 7:34 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote:
Yea, Roy being on LTIR opens up his annual cap hit to be spent elsewhere.


Thats his remaining cap hit right?

Like the 50 games he will miss?

so basically 2/3rd of his ~4M cap hit

I think that's how it works, can you confirm that for me?

If so plenty of guys on the trade block this year that fit into that range.

Author:  sabretoothpick [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:23 pm ]
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I know it's a big if, but if we make a playoff run past the first round, is there a chance Roy would be healthy?

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:39 pm ]
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Well, if Roy was injured on 12/23 and the recovery time is 4-6 months, then coming back in early May for the second round would be about 4.5 months from the time of his injury. So it's possible.

Author:  freshtracks [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:58 pm ]
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There's no f-ing way Roy is coming back, no matter what happens in the post season. Incidentally, Montreal looks even more screwed than Buffalo with Gorges and Markov out for the year. Maybe they slip out of the playoff picture soon?

And as for the sale of the team, it looks like it could be a done deal very, very soon. Who knows. I think the only hope left for this season is bringing in a heavy hitter before the trade deadline.

Author:  sabretoothpick [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:01 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote:
Well, if Roy was injured on 12/23 and the recovery time is 4-6 months, then coming back in early May for the second round would be about 4.5 months from the time of his injury. So it's possible.


Ok, that's what I figured. That would mean they would get into cap troubles if they pick someone up with similar cap hit and Roy gets healthy in time (I don't know any of the cap rules though). A lot of ifs.

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:02 pm ]
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No it doesn't - once the post-season starts, there is no salary cap.

Author:  sabretoothpick [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:03 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote:
No it doesn't - once the post-season starts, there is no salary cap.


Oh, I didn't know that. My bad.

Author:  Squanto [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:26 pm ]
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Salary cap is done on a per day basis. Each team can spend $319,355 per day on player salary. If a player is on the active NHL roster at a certain time each day, that day's salary is added in. Salary is calculated based on a 186 day season. Teams cannot exceed the daily cap, and by not exceeding the daily cap they can't exceed the yearly cap.

When Roy goes on LTIR, his daily salary no longer counts against the cap number. For Roy, they save $21,505 per day while he is out.

Author:  YankeeInRaleigh [ Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:40 pm ]
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Squanto wrote:
For Roy, they save $21,505 per day while he is out.



Fucking A, it still twists my nuts a bit when I hear what these guys make per day.

Author:  backthatSASSup [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:54 am ]
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We're not making the playoffs and if we do, we're not going very far.

I'd rather eat my words, but I don't think any reasonable and realistic move at this point can make this team into a playoff caliber shape. And Terry Pegula can't change that either.

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:03 am ]
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backthatSASSup wrote:
We're not making the playoffs and if we do, we're not going very far.

I'd rather eat my words, but I don't think any reasonable and realistic move at this point can make this team into a playoff caliber shape. And Terry Pegula can't change that either.


i dont shit rainbows myself. but i still want to see what a second half of hockey brings us before i write off the season. im tip toeing into the water of optimism.

as for pegulas take over. i couldnt agree more. long term, im hopeful things will go better. but this guy isnt mark cuban or george steinbrenner, i dont think.

big stein smells a calzone!

Author:  fan4life61 [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:30 am ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:

big stein smells a calzone!



:clap: :clap: :clap:

Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:54 am ]
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To make the playoffs, we need to play like we belong there. Seems fair to me.

Author:  gr8daygo [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:48 am ]
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CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
To make the playoffs, we need to play like we belong there. Seems fair to me.


Act as if....


Author:  sabretoothpick [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:53 am ]
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gr8daygo wrote:
CriminallyVu1gar wrote:
To make the playoffs, we need to play like we belong there. Seems fair to me.


Act as if....



Most of the Sabres already act as if they were hockey players, doesn't work.

Author:  X-pensfan [ Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:39 pm ]
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It might be tougher to skate with a nine inch pecker, and it increases the odds of getting hit in the penis by a puck or stick. Thank God I'll never have to worry about that. :pray:

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