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 Post subject: Sabres Sucked at Scoring
PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:02 am 
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You want to complain about Ryan Miller?


Vanek
2g, 3a in the past 10 games.


Stafford
1g, 4a in the past 9 games.


Ennis
1g, 2a in the past 9 games


Myers
3g, 1a in the past 10 games


Pomminville
3g, 1a in the past 10 games


Connolly
0g, 3a in the past 9 games



TWENTY-ONE POINTS IN A COMBINED FORTY-EIGHT GAMES (21 in 48) for those 6 players, to say nothing of the 3 points Gerbe has posted in his past 13 games.


TGRM-Thank God for Ryan Miller


Can't wait to see Leopold back, but there are bigger issues with the lack of goal production.

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And we knew this going into the stretch run... Its why Boyes was brought in... And yes he has certainly contributed... but TV, Staff, Ennis, Pommers... they need to step it up... Ill give Timmy a half a pass because i think he has helped Boyes score... And I'll give hecht a half a pass because I think he is playing out of position (C) and I liked his game yesterday...

Add to this the weak ass power play... yes I know they got one against NY, but certainly didn't capitalize against the Cains... You need at lease one PP goal last night and you probably take the game...

Bottom line, Im not bitching or whining... while they all played ok... they ALL need to play much better than they did last night... they are still in decent position, but have to STOP giving up points that they should be taking....

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Hecht has 5 points in his past 6 games, has been nothing less of brilliant reading the play as a center, and he has made a lot of key plays without the puck along the way. He's just not winning the draws, which I'll give him a pass on too.

Here's what I find most curious about some of the fine fans of the Sabres. Ryan Miller, despite his imperfections in last nights game has done this over the past 8 games including last night:

8 games
1.65 GAA
.938 S%
only 9 even strength goals allowed

And the new guy, Boyes, is on pace to score 82 goals a season as a Sabre.

But nobody wants to talk about the empty nets Vanek and Stafford blew in the first period, or the chances they all overlook so they can make a selfish highlight reel play.

I guess that when you get something new to complain about, it's hard to resist. Whereas this story with the Sabres top talent is old news.

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You can't always bury the puck into a wide open net. Guys do miss, if you want to talk about the misses those guys had, how about the misses the Hurricanes had also.

Had we buried all of the open nets, we would have had 5 goals, had they buried all of their, they would have had probably 5 goals also.

Actually x-pens, Hecht was 6 for 15 last night on draws, that is a 40% winning percentage.

He wasn't winning the draws when we needed them, but our other centers were.

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Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.


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Alll I'm saying is that there is a big assed elephant in the room that nobody wants to look at and it's what is costing the team points. Not enough Vanek on the scoreheet. Stafford and on and on. Hecht, Goose. and Boyes can't carry a teams offense alone.

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It sucks that Ennis and Gerbe are great players, but if you ask me their size limits them in not only physical prowess but their ability to shoot quick and hard. Look at Ennis, kid is fast as fuck, if he had half the shot some of these NHLer's have he'd score a lot more. :/


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SabresFanInNebraska wrote:
It sucks that Ennis and Gerbe are great players, but if you ask me their size limits them in not only physical prowess but their ability to shoot quick and hard. Look at Ennis, kid is fast as fuck, if he had half the shot some of these NHLer's have he'd score a lot more. :/

You need play-makers and puck-handlers too. His(Ennis) little dangle(that I'm sure LR was gonna bitch at him about) got us the 2nd goal. I, personally love when he's selfish with the puck, because he's good at it, and he tires out the other team. If he starts with the Max giveaways, that will change.

Also, Gerbe is nowhere near Ennis. Shouldn't even be in the same breath.


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gerbe is a stopgap. and nothing more.

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daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.


Who's saying he's not criticism worthy? He makes mistakes, he should be called on them. But asking for his head isn't going to change anything. Do better next time usually works, instead of WTF MILLERZ U SUX DAWG.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.


Who's saying he's not criticism worthy? He makes mistakes, he should be called on them. But asking for his head isn't going to change anything. Do better next time usually works, instead of WTF MILLERZ U SUX DAWG.

This is who:
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You want to complain about Ryan Miller?


As for ZOMG, I didn't see anyone ranting, if you'd like to point someone out, that's fine.


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daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.


You're sort of ranting on this, calling X-Pens Fan a fool.

For the actual statement, he's saying if you're going to call Miller out, call the other guys who fucked up, too. Not just Miller.

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BlueandYellow wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.


You're sort of ranting on this, calling X-Pens Fan a fool.

For the actual statement, he's saying if you're going to call Miller out, call the other guys who fucked up, too. Not just Miller.

Don't twist my words. I said If you think he's beyond reproach, then you're a fool. We were already discussing this in the other thread, and he decided to start this new one as a mockery. Now you fucking show me where I was ranting on Miller, because that was your initial claim, or do ya wanna twist that too????

Lastly, if you'll go back to the 1st thread(you know the one before this unnecessary one) you'll see I gave blame all around. Good day sir.


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X-pens fan brings up a fair point, and so does the Miller thread. I don't think x-pens fan meant for this thread to say that fans shouldn't be criticizing Miller, he was just trying to make a point that Miller isn't the only reason why we lost. And I don't think the Miller thread that Sabresfan made was trying to say that it's all Miller's fault.

Honestly, I think our defense has been our weakest point as of late. Yeah, Miller made a mistake in the Carolina game, and the lack of scoring from our top guys is worrisome, but I think our defense was bad in Carolina and looked very shaky in New York.

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daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.



I never said that, I suggested that there are bigger problems on the team right now. He's not perfect, but he's all the way at the bottom of the list of problems for the team. If you don't see that then you MUST be from Pittsburgh and probably a Pens fan too.

What thread? The "Boyes don't be back checkens hawd enough and da ice is too sofff at da rink" Yeah, really compelling stuff. Really captures what I have brought to light in this thread.

So take your dumb assed posts back to that dumb assed thread and continue to talk about everything except what REALLY needs to be talked about. Fool.

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X-pensfan wrote:
daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.



I never said that, I suggested that there are bigger problems on the team right now. He's not perfect, but he's all the way at the bottom of the list of problems for the team. If you don't see that then you MUST be from Pittsburgh and probably a Pens fan too.

What thread? The "Boyes don't be back checkens hawd enough and da ice is too sofff at da rink" Yeah, really compelling stuff. Really captures what I have brought to light in this thread.

So take your dumb assed posts back to that dumb assed thread and continue to talk about everything except what REALLY needs to be talked about. Fool.

Haha, you call me a fool? Apparently you've never reread any of your own posts. You know damn well you didn't like what you were reading in the Miller thread, so you diverted to this thread, rather than make your comments there. You can take your sexually frustrated ass back to Bentown. Your women must be pretty bad if you're all pervs and rapists. Last, I'll be the one who decides what I "really wanna talk about". The only thing you dictate is which thread will be the next one with some deviant comment in it. Oh ya, that's real inciteful of you to point out we only scored 2 goals last night. You're a fucking genius.

btw, this had nothing(zero) to do about the Boyes thread. You diverted from the Miller thread.

Just to satisfy your cherry picked stats, we're 11th in goal scoring. Assists don't mean a fucking thing in the end.

edit: ok, after I cooled down, maybe i shouldn't have been so harsh, but here's the point. You come here all guns-a-blazin with the attitude you don't care what people think, but we've came a long way across forums to have a good place to talk hockey. I really, really hate to play the role of ETC here, but I even have to be careful my g/f don't see some of the shit you post. Your humor is often a bit off, and the abrasiveness is definitely there(esp when you drink). I find it incredulous you come in here and tell us what we should REALLY be talking about. I mean wtf, who made you king. If were 11th in scoring, and 19th in goals against, then scoring and assists might not be the problem(in fact it may be the goalie or defense). Just chillax, and try to find a niche man. \Oh ya, sorry about going berserk too.


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daz28 wrote:
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daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.



I never said that, I suggested that there are bigger problems on the team right now. He's not perfect, but he's all the way at the bottom of the list of problems for the team. If you don't see that then you MUST be from Pittsburgh and probably a Pens fan too.

What thread? The "Boyes don't be back checkens hawd enough and da ice is too sofff at da rink" Yeah, really compelling stuff. Really captures what I have brought to light in this thread.

So take your dumb assed posts back to that dumb assed thread and continue to talk about everything except what REALLY needs to be talked about. Fool.

Haha, you call me a fool? Apparently you've never reread any of your own posts. You know damn well you didn't like what you were reading in the Miller thread, so you diverted to this thread, rather than make your comments there. You can take your sexually frustrated ass back to Bentown. Your women must be pretty bad if you're all pervs and rapists. Last, I'll be the one who decides what I "really wanna talk about". The only thing you dictate is which thread will be the next one with some deviant comment in it. Oh ya, that's real inciteful of you to point out we only scored 2 goals last night. You're a fucking genius.

btw, this had nothing(zero) to do about the Boyes thread. You diverted from the Miller thread.

Just to satisfy your cherry picked stats, we're 11th in goal scoring. Assists don't mean a fucking thing in the end.



I am the authority on what I mean when I say it, your poor reading comprehension skills aren't anymore of a concern of mine than your immature rants. If you want to talk about how Miller is costing the Sabres the season and how soft the ice is and how Boyes is such a big concern go right ahead.

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SabresFanInNebraska wrote:
It sucks that Ennis and Gerbe are great players, but if you ask me their size limits them in not only physical prowess but their ability to shoot quick and hard. Look at Ennis, kid is fast as fuck, if he had half the shot some of these NHLer's have he'd score a lot more. :/



Ennis hustles, but he's always along the boards never near the net. That's a part of the problem for all of the players I mentioned, they don't want to crash the net. Everybody wants to make east to west passes and make pretty plays but nobody wants to do the dirty work. Ennis needs to drive the net on a regular basis and so does everybody else.

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daz28 wrote:
Ok, ur rite, Miller is a good goalie, and we're all scmucks. Dumb ass thread. If you think he's beyond criticism, you're a fool.


btw, we already had a thread about this.



I never said that, I suggested that there are bigger problems on the team right now. He's not perfect, but he's all the way at the bottom of the list of problems for the team. If you don't see that then you MUST be from Pittsburgh and probably a Pens fan too.

What thread? The "Boyes don't be back checkens hawd enough and da ice is too sofff at da rink" Yeah, really compelling stuff. Really captures what I have brought to light in this thread.

So take your dumb assed posts back to that dumb assed thread and continue to talk about everything except what REALLY needs to be talked about. Fool.

Haha, you call me a fool? Apparently you've never reread any of your own posts. You know damn well you didn't like what you were reading in the Miller thread, so you diverted to this thread, rather than make your comments there. You can take your sexually frustrated ass back to Bentown. Your women must be pretty bad if you're all pervs and rapists. Last, I'll be the one who decides what I "really wanna talk about". The only thing you dictate is which thread will be the next one with some deviant comment in it. Oh ya, that's real inciteful of you to point out we only scored 2 goals last night. You're a fucking genius.

btw, this had nothing(zero) to do about the Boyes thread. You diverted from the Miller thread.

Just to satisfy your cherry picked stats, we're 11th in goal scoring. Assists don't mean a fucking thing in the end.



I am the authority on what I mean when I say it, your poor reading comprehension skills aren't anymore of a concern of mine than your immature rants. If you want to talk about how Miller is costing the Sabres the season and how soft the ice is and how Boyes is such a big concern go right ahead.

Please see my edit on my last post.

As for Miller, I said he cost us that goal, that's all. As for the ice, I had no comments, and as for Boyes, I had little concerns. I do, however, support anyone who wants to do any of those things, and hope you can accept that too.


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It wouldn't hurt if Morrisson knew how to pass a puck at an NHL level, his idea of a breakout pass is icing. I hope he gets bumped out of the lineup when Leopold returns because Butler and Sekera pass and defend better than he does.

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