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Defenseman Andrej Sekera of Buffalo has filed for salary arbitration.

Well this should be interesting to see if Darcy can sign him and for how much. I don't like Arbitration ruling because they seem to help the player more than anything. See MacArthur

Did Atlanta literally not send anyone to the arb hearing? I know that's the phrase used, but it would make my day to know that they actually sent not a single rep to that hearing.

When it came time to meet with an arbitrator, the Thrashers simply asked for the award to be presented immediately, based on the player’s demands, so they could then walk away from the contract.

That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since.

“We said, you know what, maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing if he gets this silly award,” Thrashers general manager Rick Dudley said. “We kind of encouraged it.”

IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt.

NYIntensity wrote:

IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt.

Arbitration is one of the few rights that a restricted free agent has. People shouldn't hate on them if they use it.

Squanto wrote:

NYIntensity wrote:

IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt.

Arbitration is one of the few rights that a restricted free agent has. People shouldn't hate on them if they use it.

Se should hate the arbitrators as they seem to base their arbitration awards based upon the player reaching some maxed out level of potential. Its not really even an arbitration proceeding as much as it is a money grab.

Sabresfansince1980 wrote:

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/clarke-macarthurs-arbitration-decision-still-raising-questions-about-arbitration-system/

That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since.

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The Arbritrator seemed like he knew what he was doing... TO ended up paying $2.4 Mill for 21 goals and 62 points...

On the sibject of Sekera wouldn't he be our 7th defenseman? I see Grags, Myers, Weber, Ehroff, Regher and Leopold playing the majority of the game. Sekera has flashes of brilliance here and there but he is not consistant. I hope we can trade him for whatever...

Author:	mechaphil [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:37 pm ]
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Allan Walsh, Sekera's agent: Quote: Defenseman Andrej Sekera of Buffalo has filed for salary arbitration.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:12 pm ]
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2 million max?

Author:	SabresBillsFan [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:36 pm ]
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Well this should be interesting to see if Darcy can sign him and for how much. I don't like Arbitration ruling because they seem to help the player more than anything. See MacArthur

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:39 pm ]
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Hmmm. I think Buffalo's offer probably wasn't any higher than 1.5 mil, and I wonder what Sekera thinks he should get, or expects given the cap situation. He hasn't taken charge and developed into the player he could/can be yet. If he wants 2 mil or more he'll have to find another team...buh bye.

Author:	mechaphil [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:40 pm ]
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From what Walsh has said, sounds like it's a length issue and not a dollar issue.

http://www.sabresjunkie.com/forum/

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Author:	Squanto [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:44 pm ]
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SabresBillsFan wrote: Well this should be interesting to see if Darcy can sign him and for how much. I don't like Arbitration ruling because they seem to help the player more than anything. See MacArthur I wish people would do a little homework and stop citing MacArthur as an example. Atlanta didn't even show up for the arbitration hearing because by then they had no intention of keeping him. The arbitrator gave MacArthur exactly what he asked for, and Atlanta walk away from it the second the decision came in. Had Atlanta put on a defense the situation would have been different.

Author:	mechaphil [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:46 pm ]
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Did Atlanta literally not send anyone to the arb hearing? I know that's the phrase used, but it would make my day to know that they actually sent not a single rep to that hearing.

Author:	Squanto [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:53 pm ]
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mechaphil wrote: Did Atlanta literally not send anyone to the arb hearing? I know that's the phrase used, but it would make my day to know that they actually sent not a single rep to that hearing. Sorta. They sent someone to simply say 'award him what he's asking for'. http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010 ... on-system/ Quote: When it came time to meet with an arbitrator, the Thrashers simply asked for the award to be presented immediately, based on the player’s demands, so they could then walk away from the contract. That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since. “We said, you know what, maybe it wouldn’t be a bad thing if he gets this silly award,” Thrashers general manager Rick Dudley said. “We kind of encouraged it.”

Author:	NYIntensity [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:20 pm ]
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IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt.

Author:	Squanto [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:21 pm ]
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NYIntensity wrote: IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt. Arbitration is one of the few rights that a restricted free agent has. People shouldn't hate on them if they use it.

Author:	Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:03 pm ]
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It's the only right a RFA has outside of signing an offer sheet. UFA status is 27 or 7 years in the NHL, whichever comes first. Like Crosby, started at age 18 in the NHL, he would become UFA at age 25 since it came first.

Author:	OldTimeHockey [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:17 pm ]
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Squanto wrote: NYIntensity wrote: IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt. Arbitration is one of the few rights that a restricted free agent has. People shouldn't hate on them if they use it. Se should hate the arbitrators as they seem to base their arbitration awards based upon the player reaching some maxed out level of potential. Its not really even an arbitration proceeding as much as it is a money grab.

Author:	mechaphil [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:22 pm ]
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OldTimeHockey wrote: Squanto wrote: NYIntensity wrote: IMO, if you go to arbitration, you're kind of a cunt. Arbitration is one of the few rights that a restricted free agent has. People shouldn't hate on them if they use it. Se should hate the arbitrators as they seem to base their arbitration awards based upon the player reaching some maxed out level of potential. Its not really even an arbitration proceeding as much as it is a money grab. Wrong, wrong, and wrong OTH. What if a team is criminally-lowballing a player? What if a player is making absurd salary demands? It's each party's right to try and argue in their favor. Whether the player or team comes out on top is a direct result of which side argued their case better. It's not merely a money grab.

Author:	Los9090 [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:43 pm ]
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What is the longest deal an arbitrator has awarded in the NHL? Usually you see two year deals, max.

Author:	Sabresfansince1980 [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:31 am ]
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I think regardless of Gragnani or Sekera's potential or consistency, Morrisonn showed to be less effective than both. If there is an odd man out (depending on whether Buffalo keeps 7 or 8 d-men) Morrisonn should be the guy. Of course, if Sekera ends up with a contract that doesn't fit after arbitration, he just made himself the odd man out due to necessity. I don't really like Sekera that much, but I'd rather he stay on as the 7th (maybe 6th) man as opposed to Morrisonn. But maybe Morrisonn just needed a season to adapt to Buffalo's style...idk.

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Author:	mechaphil [ Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:14 pm ]
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Per the CBA, the maximum term is only two years.

Author:	Jammerz04 [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:49 am ]
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[quote="Sabresfansince1980"]http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/clarke-macarthurs-arbitration-decision-still-raising-questions-about-arbitration-system/ That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since. quote] The Arbritrator seemed like he knew what he was doing... TO ended up paying $2.4 Mill for 21 goals and 62 points... On the sibject of Sekera wouldn't he be our 7th defenseman? I see Grags, Myers, Weber, Ehroff, Regher and Leopold playing the majority of the game. Sekera has flashes of brilliance here and there but he is not consistant. I hope we can trade him for whatever...

Author:	sabres1996 [ Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:33 am ]
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Jammerz04 wrote: Sabresfansince1980 wrote: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/06/clarke-macarthurs-arbitration-decision-still-raising-questions-about-arbitration-system/ That’s how a third-line forward who had 35 points landed a $2.4-million (all currency U.S.) award, one the hockey world has been puzzling over ever since. quote] The Arbritrator seemed like he knew what he was doing... TO ended up paying $2.4 Mill for 21 goals and 62 points... On the sibject of Sekera wouldn't he be our 7th defenseman? I see Grags, Myers, Weber, Ehroff, Regher and Leopold playing the majority of the game. Sekera has flashes of brilliance here and there but he is not consistant. I hope we can trade him for whatever... As much as I like Gragnani (And I have before he was even called up, probably a little bit after we drafted him) I don't think he's had much experience to say if he's inconsistent or consistent.