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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | no lockout video. enjoy. |
| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Dear Donald Fehr: Fuck you Dear Gary Bettman: Fuck you |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
BlueandYellow wrote: Dear Donald Fehr: Fuck you Dear Gary Bettman: Fuck you NHL Owners, not Bettman. |
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| Author: | Vanek_Fanatic_26 [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 4:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: Dear Donald Fehr: Fuck you Dear Gary Bettman: Fuck you NHL Owners, not Bettman. Bettman is the voice of the owners. He's been through 2 other lockouts and looks likely to be heading through his third. I have no sympathy for that guy. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Vanek_Fanatic_26 wrote: Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: Dear Donald Fehr: Fuck you Dear Gary Bettman: Fuck you NHL Owners, not Bettman. Bettman is the voice of the owners. He's been through 2 other lockouts and looks likely to be heading through his third. I have no sympathy for that guy. So he is the voice of the owners and has the final say in what happens right? I say it again, it's the owner's that are demanding the players take less, not Bettman, how is he honestly the bad guy here? Everyone who blames Bettman doesn't understand his job or what he actually does. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Bettman is the one negotiating with Fehr. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
BlueandYellow wrote: Bettman is the one negotiating with Fehr. The owners are the ones telling him their demands though. Does "Voice" of the Owners mean anything. It's like a lawyer speaking on behalf of a client. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Sat Sep 08, 2012 10:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
You honestly think Bettman doesn't want what the owners are suggesting? |
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| Author: | Vanek_Fanatic_26 [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: Bettman is the one negotiating with Fehr. The owners are the ones telling him their demands though. Does "Voice" of the Owners mean anything. It's like a lawyer speaking on behalf of a client. The voice of the owners makes about $7 million a year. He's more than a voice. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
BlueandYellow wrote: You honestly think Bettman doesn't want what the owners are suggesting? He still only works for the owners. It's not his fault the owners are demanding more money from the players. Bettman does not run the NHL, the 30 owners run it. They are the ones who actually run the league. Without them there wouldn't be a Bettman. Bettman will make 7 million a year regardless of how much money the players make. I don't think having the owners make more money is going to affect Bettman. Bettman is not the reason there might be a lockout, get your head out of your ass and actually look to the root of the problem. The NHL owners. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Sun Sep 09, 2012 6:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Prove to me otherwise that Bettman doesn't actually think what he is suggesting is the correct choice or GTFO. Because he's the one making the deals, not the owners. He creates the deals, he thinks the deals are whats best for the league. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
BlueandYellow wrote: Prove to me otherwise that Bettman doesn't actually think what he is suggesting is the correct choice or GTFO. Because he's the one making the deals, not the owners. He creates the deals, he thinks the deals are whats best for the league. Umm, when the owners say they want more than 43% that they are getting, that money doesn't go to Bettman, I don't get why you don't see this. The owners get want more money, they in turn tell Bettman what they want, he negotiates this. You clearly think Bettman is gonna get more money if the owners get more money instead of the players. If he has a salary, it's not gonna change whether or not the players receive more or less and same with the owners. And everything you read about this says "NHL Owners" proposals not, Gary Bettman's Proposal. |
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| Author: | Vanek_Fanatic_26 [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: Prove to me otherwise that Bettman doesn't actually think what he is suggesting is the correct choice or GTFO. Because he's the one making the deals, not the owners. He creates the deals, he thinks the deals are whats best for the league. Umm, when the owners say they want more than 43% that they are getting, that money doesn't go to Bettman, I don't get why you don't see this. The owners get want more money, they in turn tell Bettman what they want, he negotiates this. You clearly think Bettman is gonna get more money if the owners get more money instead of the players. If he has a salary, it's not gonna change whether or not the players receive more or less and same with the owners. And everything you read about this says "NHL Owners" proposals not, Gary Bettman's Proposal. If we want to get technical about it, the NHL has owned the Coyotes for the past few seasons. That's good enough in my book to make Bettman an owner. Not the point, though. Bettman, whether he likes it or not, is the head of the entire front. He has the power to tell the owners that they're in way over their heads, but he doesn't, because he, along with owners, wants more money to be on the owners' side. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Yea, if Bettman tells the owners to take a hike, he's out of a job. The NHL Owners are Bettman's boss. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
You're not at all getting the point. He makes the proposals. Sure, the owners like that proposal, but Bettman IS THE ONE making the deals, and he thinks the deals are whats best for the NHL. Which they're not. |
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| Author: | fly as hale [ Mon Sep 10, 2012 9:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
WELL. The video is beautifully done and makes me miss hockey. |
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| Author: | Vanek_Fanatic_26 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Plus, I'd like to point out that I never said Bettman would tell the owners to take a hike. There's a difference between that and being helpful in the legalities of certain things, which he isn't being at all. |
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| Author: | Skyline_BNR34 [ Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
BlueandYellow wrote: You're not at all getting the point. He makes the proposals. Sure, the owners like that proposal, but Bettman IS THE ONE making the deals, and he thinks the deals are whats best for the NHL. Which they're not. I'm sure he is the only one who has say in this. These owners have no say whatsoever. |
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| Author: | Vanek_Fanatic_26 [ Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: You're not at all getting the point. He makes the proposals. Sure, the owners like that proposal, but Bettman IS THE ONE making the deals, and he thinks the deals are whats best for the NHL. Which they're not. I'm sure he is the only one who has say in this. These owners have no say whatsoever. You're blatantly missing the point, and it's making you sound like an ass. We're not telling you Bettman is the only guy doing work, we're simply saying that Bettman is a little more than the voice of the owners. He's the god damn commissioner of the NHL. It's like saying Donald Fehr is simply the voice of the players. That isn't true. Fehr is to Bettman as the players are to the owners. Bettman is the one trying to get back every penny the owners want, and Fehr is the one trying to keep that pool of money for the players. They're the only ones that can translate any of that into any form of a contract. Some of these owners might have background lawyer careers, but none that I know of. |
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| Author: | BlueandYellow [ Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no lockout video. enjoy. |
Skyline_BNR34 wrote: BlueandYellow wrote: You're not at all getting the point. He makes the proposals. Sure, the owners like that proposal, but Bettman IS THE ONE making the deals, and he thinks the deals are whats best for the NHL. Which they're not. I'm sure he is the only one who has say in this. These owners have no say whatsoever. Not saying the owners don't have a say. But Bettman AGREES with these proposals 100%. Which still makes him an asshole. |
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