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Sabretooth
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:23 pm 
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That is a great deal. Do it!

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Whatever it would take to get Paul to Buffalo I say we should do it. The guy is on a so so team and could really go far on a line with Vanek. Being an Av's fan, I'd hate to see him go to anyone but Buffalo. The word on the street out here to is that the Av's are looking to rebuild so no one is off the table in Denver.


Well, when you think about it, Duchene is their #1 center, which of course relegates Stastny to #2, and 6.6 million per year is an assload of cash to pay a 2nd line center IMO. So, in that respect, I could see the positives in trading him, from an Avs perspective...

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Sabretooth, you know Darcy Regier is not the only GM in the league, meaning he can't just make a miraculous trade anytime he wants... Correct?

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Stafford isn't our true #1. Don't let a streak change your mind.


I disagree. He's been a different player this year, and he's been centered primarily either by Connolly or Hecht, and still managed to put up big numbers...

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BlueandYellow wrote:
Sabretooth, you know Darcy Regier is not the only GM in the league, meaning he can't just make a miraculous trade anytime he wants... Correct?


Let me counter you. There is only one group of general managers in the National Hockey League. There are not 2 groups, the active group of 29, and the inactive group of 1. Guess where Darcy Regier falls.

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Seanothan27 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Stafford isn't our true #1. Don't let a streak change your mind.


I disagree. He's been a different player this year, and he's been centered primarily either by Connolly or Hecht, and still managed to put up big numbers...


Here is my issue with Stafford. Your a professional and he wasn't even in the best shape the last couple of years. And now with him entering his contract year he is in the best shape of his playing career. No one can doubt he can put the puck in the net but where I have a problem with him is his work ethic and it seems like he has more nights off than on to pay him big bucks.


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That is a fair assessment of Stafford.

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Sabretooth wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Sabretooth, you know Darcy Regier is not the only GM in the league, meaning he can't just make a miraculous trade anytime he wants... Correct?


Let me counter you. There is only one group of general managers in the National Hockey League. There are not 2 groups, the active group of 29, and the inactive group of 1. Guess where Darcy Regier falls.


Now that's funny! I just don't see much happening on the sabres front tomorrow unless they overpay. I would rather them dump Connolly and some other unrestricted players and get what you can for them instead of losing them for nothing. But that's just me.


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SabresBillsFan wrote:
Seanothan27 wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Stafford isn't our true #1. Don't let a streak change your mind.


I disagree. He's been a different player this year, and he's been centered primarily either by Connolly or Hecht, and still managed to put up big numbers...


Here is my issue with Stafford. Your a professional and he wasn't even in the best shape the last couple of years. And now with him entering his contract year he is in the best shape of his playing career. No one can doubt he can put the puck in the net but where I have a problem with him is his work ethic and it seems like he has more nights off than on to pay him big bucks.


Valid point. I think the jury will be out on him for at least the next 2 seasons, to see if he can not only sustain his current success, but build upon it. All I'm saying is that, I don't want us to give up on him yet, unless he's in a package to acquire a top-tier center, and even then I'd be a little apprehensive...

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SabresBillsFan wrote:
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BlueandYellow wrote:
Sabretooth, you know Darcy Regier is not the only GM in the league, meaning he can't just make a miraculous trade anytime he wants... Correct?


Let me counter you. There is only one group of general managers in the National Hockey League. There are not 2 groups, the active group of 29, and the inactive group of 1. Guess where Darcy Regier falls.


Now that's funny! I just don't see much happening on the sabres front tomorrow unless they overpay. I would rather them dump Connolly and some other unrestricted players and get what you can for them instead of losing them for nothing. But that's just me.


Darcy Regier was directed to be active. He has failed so far. These remaining hours will determine his future. I will say he will make several wheel and deal to win moves promptly.

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Seanothan27 wrote:
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Seanothan27 wrote:
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Stafford isn't our true #1. Don't let a streak change your mind.


I disagree. He's been a different player this year, and he's been centered primarily either by Connolly or Hecht, and still managed to put up big numbers...


Here is my issue with Stafford. Your a professional and he wasn't even in the best shape the last couple of years. And now with him entering his contract year he is in the best shape of his playing career. No one can doubt he can put the puck in the net but where I have a problem with him is his work ethic and it seems like he has more nights off than on to pay him big bucks.


Valid point. I think the jury will be out on him for at least the next 2 seasons, to see if he can not only sustain his current success, but build upon it. All I'm saying is that, I don't want us to give up on him yet, unless he's in a package to acquire a top-tier center..


I agree if he can be moved for a top line center without packaging too much more for him then do it. I would also like to see Stafford put points up on a more consistent basis before shelling out top dollar. I'm not a big fan of a player that's not in that great a shape and then he's in his contract year and he comes to camp in the best shape of his life. Something is wrong there.


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When was Stafford out of shape? I thought that was Rivet.

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Sabretooth wrote:
SabresBillsFan wrote:
Sabretooth wrote:
BlueandYellow wrote:
Sabretooth, you know Darcy Regier is not the only GM in the league, meaning he can't just make a miraculous trade anytime he wants... Correct?


Let me counter you. There is only one group of general managers in the National Hockey League. There are not 2 groups, the active group of 29, and the inactive group of 1. Guess where Darcy Regier falls.


Now that's funny! I just don't see much happening on the sabres front tomorrow unless they overpay. I would rather them dump Connolly and some other unrestricted players and get what you can for them instead of losing them for nothing. But that's just me.


Darcy Regier was directed to be active. He has failed so far. These remaining hours will determine his future. I will say he will make several wheel and deal to win moves promptly.


The only way I see him making a move to greatly improve this team is by overpaying. I don't mind if Buffalo moves Gerbe and maybe a defensive prospect but they won't get you much.


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When was Stafford out of shape? I thought that was Rivet.


He wasn't even in the best shape of his career until this training camp.


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I could understand that from not showing up to score goals.

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Looks like Connolly isn't getting moved tomorrow!
http://wgr550.com/Report--Sabres-Have-N ... ly/9290464

I don't see anyway that Pegula's 3 year plan is going to work with Darcy at the helm. Yeah let's keep Connolly and lose him at the end of the year for nothing.


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If the right offer came in for Connolly, I'm sure Darcy would take it.

Thing is, what he's worth at this point isn't worth selling him when we could use him for this playoff push.

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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
If the right offer came in for Connolly, I'm sure Darcy would take it.

Thing is, what he's worth at this point isn't worth selling him when we could use him for this playoff push.


In all honesty do you really think Buffalo is going to make a push in the playoffs if they even make it in? I highly doubt it.
Below is what someone else wrote on another board and this is exactly the way I think tomorrow will go for Buffalo.

Here is how tomorrow is going to go. Darcy will wait and wait and wait. Then right before the deadline he will trade something crappy for something else crappy. The He will hold a press conference and say "well its hard to deal and the prices were to high and there just werent any really good players available but I think we have done well" Heres my response 24hours ahead of schedule "go :censored: yourself"


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Trading Connolly is a catch 22.

Argument 1: He won't be back next year (please, God!!), so at least get something for him.

Argument 2: We have no depth to fill his spot.

-Management has to decide whether they want to sneak into the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed, and likely get bounced in the 1st round (therefore keeping Timmy), or go into a mini-rebuild and get a high draft pick (We'd be picking 9th, as of today).

Personally, I'd like us to deal Connolly, Neids, Greir, and Monty (if he won't re-sign), fill their spots with Portland kids (Biega, Adam, Byron) and hope for the best.

Worst case scenario, we get a shot at Nugent-Hopkins/Landeskog/Couturier/Strome/Saad......

By the way, I REALLY like Strome

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SabresBillsFan wrote:
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If the right offer came in for Connolly, I'm sure Darcy would take it.

Thing is, what he's worth at this point isn't worth selling him when we could use him for this playoff push.


In all honesty do you really think Buffalo is going to make a push in the playoffs if they even make it in? I highly doubt it.
Below is what someone else wrote on another board and this is exactly the way I think tomorrow will go for Buffalo.

Here is how tomorrow is going to go. Darcy will wait and wait and wait. Then right before the deadline he will trade something crappy for something else crappy. The He will hold a press conference and say "well its hard to deal and the prices were to high and there just werent any really good players available but I think we have done well" Heres my response 24hours ahead of schedule "go :censored: yourself"


I'd always rather see us try.

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