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Author:  adambuffalo [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:59 am ]
Post subject:  Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Lot's of rumors surrounding these guys. Buffalo may not be on Savard's "list", but of these available players, I would put him at the top of the list. He would be the bonafide center that we need on a top pairing with TV and could come in a change the locker room instantly. From all that I've seen he is great on and off the ice. I would offer Stafford and a 1st to get him on the Sabres.

Not big on Kaberle, basically the asking price is too high because someone over paid for Kessel and thinks he can do the same for Kaberle.
Kovalchuk is going to be the next player signing for too much and never being able to trade (see Lacavilier and Dipietro)
Souray...I'm all for getting him...if it will be for 1/2 price.

Author:  MakinItLookMean [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

i have always liked savard, but i didn't realize he was born in 77'....he's gettin' up there in age.....i don't know what he has left on his contract.....i would say yes to him but no more than a 2 year contract

Author:  X-pensfan [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

adambuffalo wrote:
Lot's of tumors surrounding these guys. Buffalo may not be on Savard's "list", but of these available players, I would put him at the top of the list. He would be the bonafide center that we need on a top pairing with TV and could come in a change the locker room instantly. From all that I've seen he is great on and off the ice. I would offer Stafford and a 1st to get him on the Sabres.

Not big on Kaberle, basically the asking price is too high because someone over paid for Kessel and thinks he can do the same for Kaberle.
Kovalchuk is going to be the next player signing for too much and never being able to trade (see Lacavilier and Dipietro)
Souray...I'm all for getting him...if it will be for 1/2 price.





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Author:  adambuffalo [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

He's under contract for 7 more years. Here's his numbers:

Salary
10/11 11/12 12/13 13/14 14/15 15/16 16/17
$7m $7m $6.5m $5.m $1.5m $525k $525k

Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

A 4 million dollar cap hit for Savard, I'd do it instantly.

Author:  mechaphil [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

X-pensfan wrote:
adambuffalo wrote:
Lot's of tumors surrounding these guys. Buffalo may not be on Savard's "list", but of these available players, I would put him at the top of the list. He would be the bonafide center that we need on a top pairing with TV and could come in a change the locker room instantly. From all that I've seen he is great on and off the ice. I would offer Stafford and a 1st to get him on the Sabres.

Not big on Kaberle, basically the asking price is too high because someone over paid for Kessel and thinks he can do the same for Kaberle.
Kovalchuk is going to be the next player signing for too much and never being able to trade (see Lacavilier and Dipietro)
Souray...I'm all for getting him...if it will be for 1/2 price.





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Good work, sir! :lol:

Author:  HelloMyKneeGrows [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

adambuffalo wrote:
He's under contract for 7 more years. Here's his numbers:

Salary
10/11 11/12 12/13 13/14 14/15 15/16 16/17
$7m $7m $6.5m $5.m $1.5m $525k $525k


Yeah, he's totally worth it with that kinda cap hit but we would need to either trade connolly or move him to wing on the first line with Roy and Savard if Stafford is involved. And honestly, the more I think about it, I wouldn't mind seeing TC playing wing alongside Savard and Vanek....

Author:  mechaphil [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Savard? Another Connolly, but with 100% more biting!
Kaberle? Burke's never gonna trade him cuz he wants too much
Souray? Just say no to the pylon
Kovalchuk? What are you fucking insane

Author:  HelloMyKneeGrows [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

mechaphil wrote:
Savard? Another Connolly, but with 100% more biting!
Kaberle? Burke's never gonna trade him cuz he wants too much
Souray? Just say no to the pylon
Kovalchuk? What are you fucking insane


I would prefer to snag Wheeler from the B's. A guy with that much size and skill would def help out our first line

Author:  mechaphil [ Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Except he's Boston's Drew Stafford.

Author:  Nuthatch [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Maybe we should trade our stafford for their stafford, even up, and see how it works? :think:

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Cuz Blake Wheeler is headed to arbitration and made $2.8M last season whereas Drew Stafford is still under contract for one more year and only costs $1.9M

Author:  Seanothan27 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

mechaphil wrote:
Except he's Boston's Drew Stafford.


True, but our Stafford isn't in love with Vanek. I really think that playing on a line with him and Roy would light a fire under his ass...

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Seanothan27 wrote:
mechaphil wrote:
Except he's Boston's Drew Stafford.


True, but our Stafford isn't in love with Vanek. I really think that playing on a line with him and Roy would light a fire under his ass...

True, and but do we really wanna see him flake out and earn like twice what Stafford is?

Author:  Seanothan27 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

If we swap out Stafford for Wheeler, it's only another million or so onto the cap. If he only signs for 2 years or so I say go for it...

Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Hmm, true. Ehhhh I guess it's a shot worth taking.

I'd still rather sign Guerin instead. Until he signs somewhere else or Darcy gets someone better, my lot is thrown in with Bill Guerin lol

Author:  Seanothan27 [ Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Guerin would be sweet, but I'm not sure if he'd sign with a team that's not a top contender for the Cup (although he did play with the Islanders, so what the hell do I know...)

So, for UFA's I'd love Guerin. Even Petr Sykora would be alright. I guess Stempniak is an option as well. Hopefully he'd take a hefty pay cut, though I doubt he will...

Author:  Jim Bob [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

Wheeler is more expensive and he's had offensive production that is very close to Stafford:

Last two years:

Wheeler - 163gp 39g 83pts 99 PIMs
Stafford - 150gp 34g 79pts 64 PIMs

Wheeler's taller (6'5" to 6'1")

Stafford's "listed weight" is heavier (216 to 205)

Is Wheeler really worth more money than Stafford and giving up something in trade to acquire him?

Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

I'd love to have Bill Guerin on this team. He can show Stafford what routes to take.

Drew isn't a terrible player... he just needs to learn his positioning. He seems lost out there, despite having the raw skills and size to be a good NHL forward.

Author:  Timbo Slice [ Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Savard, Kaberle, Souray, Kovalchuk?

I'd trade Staff for Wheeler in a heartbeat

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