Anyways back to the hart trophy debate, OV does not deserve that heart at all. If he wins this award this year then as Phil said its a complete farce.

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Steve Mason 61 GP 33-20-7 2.29 GAA .916 SV% 10 Shutouts
Jimmy Howard 54 GP 30-15-9 2.29 GAA 9.24 SV% 1 Shutout

Steve Mason won the award last year in a weaker year for rookies because he had 10 shutouts for Columbus and was basically the only reason they snuck into the playoffs. Jimmy Howard is posting similar numbers without the miraculous SO total playing for Detroit. Yeah they started slow and battled through injuries but they still had arguably the best coach in the NHL on their bench. They still had one of the best dmen in the league no matter how much he has slowed down. Just his presence alone will calm any team down. Detroit is still one of the most structured, most disciplined teams in the league. So many players with a high hockey IQ. They win Cups with Osgood as the goalie becuase they play such a great team game. They can win with anyone in net just as long as that goalie can keep them in games.
I just dont see how a 25 year old goalie for Detroit can beat out 2 19 year old kids who have been a huge reason to their teams surprising seasons.

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Eh

you must have missed when osgood couldnt keep the wings in the game, and how osgood hasnt played in almost 2 months.

once again, age is not a factor here. a starting goalie stealing wins for a team in his rookie year is impressive. its still his first year in the league. thats what this is. lidstrom also is above average this season, at best. he has slipped badly.

this isnt the wings team of the past, if you watch the games, like i have, its literally howard keeping them in games. its not like hes just facing point shots and such. detroits defense is average at best.

shut outs is a glamor stat, nothing more. what matters is wins and win percentage. and just as well, howards save percentage is very high. most seasons, his numbers are veznia finalist numbers.

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Lidstrom is 40, did you really think a 40 year old guy is still gonna play like he is can still win a Norris.

I'd still take Lidstrom over some of the scrubs on our team.

Lidstrom is still a very great defender, slowed down a bit, but it's not like he wouldn't be a first pair defensemen on EVERY team in the league still.

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i dunno man. he slowed down last year. hes still good, very good. but if he was at 75% as of effective as he was in 2008, id be shocked.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/s ... id=5034714

scott burnside makes a case for jim howard... for the hart trophy. last night, larry murphy said that howard should be mentioned, not win, but a potential nominee for veznia after last nights shutout.

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