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Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Revisiting the 3 Point System
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/s ... id=4706309
Author:  Sk8haggard9 [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
Personally, I like the 3 point idea alot better, but it's probably not going to happen. The NHL needs to look at marketing, and a huge change in the points system would cause alot of controversy I think.

Also, the way the point system is now it allows for mediocre teams to stay in the playoff race. This means more teams are closer to making the playoffs, which means more fans are interested at the end of the year and its a more exciting finish. Bettman would never take that away.
Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
The playoff race would be boring and sad with a 3 point system. Teams with very strong Octobers and Novembers would be so far ahead in the standings it would be ridiculous. Me no likey.
Author:  CriminallyVu1gar [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
mechaphil wrote:
The playoff race would be boring and sad with a 3 point system. Teams with very strong Octobers and Novembers would be so far ahead in the standings it would be ridiculous. Me no likey.


I agree. I think to begin the year you just dock the Devils, Rangers, Bruins and Wild 10 points for the brain crippling hockey they play and the problem is solved.
Author:  End The Curse [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:31 pm ]
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Keep the 2 point system, but make it where you get 2 points for a win and zero points for a loss. Awarding a point for losing in OT or a Shootout is completely idiotic.
Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:32 pm ]
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End The Curse wrote:
Keep the 2 point system, but make it where you get 2 points for a win and zero points for a loss. Awarding a point for losing in OT or a Shootout is completely idiotic.

Bingo.
Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
heres an idea. boooy, its a doozie!

2 points win
1 point tie

i hate seeing bloated records where the 13th place team in the conference is still 4 games above .500 many times.
Author:  Yhoshi [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
mechaphil wrote:
The playoff race would be boring and sad with a 3 point system. Teams with very strong Octobers and Novembers would be so far ahead in the standings it would be ridiculous. Me no likey.


bullshit

a 3 point system makes all possible.
in Soccer it has a very positive effect. in Icehockey too.

but okay. everything new is evil and systems used in Europe.. ahhhhhhhhhhh God bless America. :roll:

PS: Teams with very strong Octobers and Novembers would be soo gar ahead in the standings it IS ridiculous . the current system is trash.
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
I saw this and I sent an email to Pierre Lebrun with my thoughts. I don't have the exact copy but I made the following points.

Personally, I hate the idea of a 3 point system. The fact that the standings stay so tightly together means that nobody can afford to take a night off.

Lets not forget how entertaining the race for the final playoff berths have been the past 2 seasons.
Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
Not even gonna attack you, kiddo (Yhoshi, not PSP), for being an ass.

All I'm gonna say is, if every team who had an excellent October always made it into the playoffs guaranteed, then this would be the dawn of the Sabres fifth-consecutive playoffs-bound season.

ETC is 100% right about what the point system should be - reward the winners, without rewarding the losers at all. 2 for the W, nothing for a L, OTL, or SOL.
Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
ill repeat:

2 points win
1 point tie

i have no qualms about a game ending in a tie.
Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
I don't like a tie. Boring, boring, boring. However, and this is a big however, being awarded 1 point for a tie is MUCH more logical than awarding loser points to teams who lose in OT or a SO
Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
ill repeat:

2 points win
1 point tie

i have no qualms about a game ending in a tie.


The shootout is too good for regular season hockey. No ties. Give people a winner.

Even after losing a shootout, you can shrug it off. You got a point, and you got to see a shootout.

Keep the system just as it is, where the races are very tight and competitive.
Author:  Yhoshi [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
I saw this and I sent an email to Pierre Lebrun with my thoughts. I don't have the exact copy but I made the following points.

Personally, I hate the idea of a 3 point system. The fact that the standings stay so tightly together means that nobody can afford to take a night off.

Lets not forget how entertaining the race for the final playoff berths have been the past 2 seasons.


Hey , please think about it a second time.

1 point for a tie 1 extra point for a OT win 3 points for a real win.

certainly the difference of points is bigger, but u can get a lot of points very quickly. nowadays its enough for a leading team gettin some points with OT losses, winning some OT games sometimes a real win. but with the 3 points system . a team lose 3 games, another team win 3 in regular time. 9 POINTS.


in former times in soccer teams played to get a tie.... but with the new system everything can happen so fast and u MUST do everything to win .
Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
its boring, but it doesnt bloat the standings at least. plus its old school. hockey is a sport based on tradition anyways. the system wasnt broke, but they tried to fix it anyways.
Author:  Yhoshi [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
its boring, but it doesnt bloat the standings at least. plus its old school. hockey is a sport based on tradition anyways. the system wasnt broke, but they tried to fix it anyways.


it was tradition to burn women with red hair. it was a good decision to quit it , right?

In Europe tradition counts more than in the USA .... . "Franchise" "Event" ... :doh:
but even in Football (dont want to call it soccer) they changed the system.
Author:  mechaphil [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:55 pm ]
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Get off your high horse, Yhoshi. Hockey is a Canadian game, anyways.
Author:  Squanto [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
If ties still existed, the 3 point system would have some merit.

However, since every game now has a win or lose outcome, there's no need for any kind of points system anymore.

Top 3 seeds in the conference are your division winners, sorted by record.
Next 5 best records in the conference make the playoffs.
Standard tiebreaking rules apply.


Done deal.
Author:  Hammygoodness [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
I really don't think changing the scoring system is going to have too much effect on the standings. You might see some minor shifting here and there, but it's not a big enough slant for me to warrant meddling with the system for that reason alone.

Now, the other point was that with an extra point on the line for finishing in regulation, you might see teams going for it more when the score is tied late. That may be true. I think trying it out in the AHL would not be a bad idea.

And I really don't understand why someone would say that a 3 point system would make teams with bad Octobers and Novembers out of the playoff race any moreso than the current system. Yeah, your opponents can pull ahead by 3 points a game very quickly, but you can catch up at the exact same pace. I really fail to see how the scoring system would change that much. It's like saying the same would be true if they awarded 57 points for a win and 0 for a loss. Teams with bad Octobers and Novembers would be so far behind! Except, they could make up 57 points a game.

I guess, for me, the current system, the 3 point system or just count wins and losses are all acceptable. I fucking hate ties. Such a letdown. But how they determine how many points you get for a win pales in comparison to how they play the game on the ice. Keep the clutching and grabbing out and I'm a happy fan.

Ham
Author:  Yhoshi [ Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Revisiting the 3 Point System
mechaphil wrote:
Get off your high horse, Yhoshi. Hockey is a Canadian game, anyways.


so sorry , the horse is too high to come down without bad injuries.

:lol: cool down , i know hockey has tradition, but all i wanted to say is that u shouldn't put tradition over
all

(so great english)
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