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Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Rick Vaive Charged With Impaired Driving.

Courtesy of Faceoff.com:

Former Leaf captain Rick Vaive charged with impaired driving

"TORONTO - Former Toronto Maple Leafs captain Rick Vaive was charged with impaired driving in July, according to court documents obtained by Global News.

A concerned citizen called police to say he'd seen a man get into a vehicle in a parking lot in Vaughan. The male witness said the driver appeared to be drunk.

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Ironically, Vaive wrote a letter of support for another former Leaf captain, Rob Ramage, during a sentencing hearing earlier this year.

In January 2008, Ramage, a friend of Vaive's, was sentenced to four years for impaired driving causing death, an accident that killed former Blackhawks captain Keith Magnuson."



...Not to say that this is typical NHL behavior - But, it would be fair to note that so many ex-players fall into the bottle, once their careers end.

I would tend to believe that in many cases it's a cultural trait - As a former Canadian, I can honestly say that (perhaps, owing to the northern climate - lack of daylight hours, prolonged winter) there is a mind-set that revolves around alcohol-consumption that is uniquely "Canadian".

As are there similar, but unique, mind-sets in Scandinavia and Russia (and Eastern Europe.) One's that revolve around a degree of stoicism and fatalism, caused by economic conditions as well as the male role (in the given societies) and physiological responses to annual climate-related conditions.

Ironic, indeed, that Vaive should have been the one pleading for leniency, in Ramage's tragic criminal proceedings.

Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:55 am ]
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Can someone please explain "impaired driving?"

What are the rules in Canada concerning drunk driving?

Author:  Wyohomeboy [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:02 am ]
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You can add Alaska to that list as well Ice. The University of Wyoming was excluded from Playboys top ten partying schools list back in the early eighties. They put a disclaimer in the magazine that the per capita alcohol consumption in Laramie was so much higher than other college towns that UW lost its collegiate status, as we were considered "PROFESSIONAL DRINKERS".

I did my part to carry the torch, and thought I was a pretty accomplished alcoholic....until I moved to Alaska!! I remember people at the bar at 8am, that I had seen at 4am in the bar, and they were visible shaking and asking if anyone had seen the owner as it was three minutes after 8 and the bar wasn't open yet.

Pretty sad, but it has been an accepted part of many societies for a long time.

Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:23 am ]
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Can someone please explain "impaired driving?"


Technically,"impaired driving" is any condition which affects one's driving adversely.

If you require prescription glasses, and you're not wearing them, when pulled over, you can be charged with impaired driving...

Similarly, if you are required to take a particular medication, and fail to do so: Impaired.

In the alcohol-related context, impaired driving is considered driving under the influence, but below the legal limit - Hence, if the limit is 0.010 and one is breathalyzed at 0.008, it is considered impaired driving.

The charge is also used as a catch-all: If your music is too loud or you are tuning your radio or changing a CD, and you are "impaired" from hearing/paying attention to traffic around you, and reacting to it...If you are arguing with someone, or speaking on a cell-phone, and are diverting your attention from the primary task of driving...etc.

It is also used as a charge, to avoid the testing, protracted legal battle and resultant stigma, when dealing with a driver who has consumed some form of recreational pharmaceutical: Being stoned or high will bring a charge of impared driving - As there's no effective, affordable, immediate test that can legally ascertain that you are "high" at the moment of arrest...so, the constable offers a firsthand description of your perceived impairment, and you are charged.

Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:36 am ]
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BTW: Just for the record...The terms "Golf Tournament/Banquet/Presentation" coupled with "impaired driving" is code for: He was fucking hammered and the cop let him off because he recognized him and/or didn't want to cause him any further grief.

Canadians don't have a drink or two, while "golfing" - Typically, they swing a club, in progressively more erratic arcs, while using it as an excuse to get absolutely shit-faced.

Author:  adambuffalo [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:22 am ]
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icehound wrote:


I would tend to believe that in many cases it's a cultural trait - As a former Canadian, I can honestly say that (perhaps, owing to the northern climate - lack of daylight hours, prolonged winter) there is a mind-set that revolves around alcohol-consumption that is uniquely "Canadian".

As are there similar, but unique, mind-sets in Scandinavia and Russia (and Eastern Europe.) One's that revolve around a degree of stoicism and fatalism, caused by economic conditions as well as the male role (in the given societies) and physiological responses to annual climate-related conditions.




It a lot of ways that sounds like Buffalo too!

Author:  PuckSniperPensel [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:49 am ]
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icehound wrote:
PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Can someone please explain "impaired driving?"


Technically,"impaired driving" is any condition which affects one's driving adversely.

If you require prescription glasses, and you're not wearing them, when pulled over, you can be charged with impaired driving...

Similarly, if you are required to take a particular medication, and fail to do so: Impaired.

In the alcohol-related context, impaired driving is considered driving under the influence, but below the legal limit - Hence, if the limit is 0.010 and one is breathalyzed at 0.008, it is considered impaired driving.

The charge is also used as a catch-all: If your music is too loud or you are tuning your radio or changing a CD, and you are "impaired" from hearing/paying attention to traffic around you, and reacting to it...If you are arguing with someone, or speaking on a cell-phone, and are diverting your attention from the primary task of driving...etc.

It is also used as a charge, to avoid the testing, protracted legal battle and resultant stigma, when dealing with a driver who has consumed some form of recreational pharmaceutical: Being stoned or high will bring a charge of impared driving - As there's no effective, affordable, immediate test that can legally ascertain that you are "high" at the moment of arrest...so, the constable offers a firsthand description of your perceived impairment, and you are charged.


Never knew about that loophole. I'm assuming this is true for the states too?

Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:08 pm ]
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PuckSniperPensel wrote:
Never knew about that loophole. I'm assuming this is true for the states too?


..Can't say..But, I would guess that it varies, from state to state.

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:05 pm ]
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icehound wrote:
Canadians don't have a drink or two, while "golfing" - Typically, they swing a club, in progressively more erratic arcs, while using it as an excuse to get absolutely shit-faced.


You just described my experiences on the golf course here in WNY! Does this mean I'm Canadian?? :o

(Never try to keep up with Rick Martin on the course....)

Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:15 pm ]
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Howie Hodge wrote:
icehound wrote:
Canadians don't have a drink or two, while "golfing" - Typically, they swing a club, in progressively more erratic arcs, while using it as an excuse to get absolutely shit-faced.


You just described my experiences on the golf course here in WNY! Does this mean I'm Canadian?? :o


Why, sure! You're an honorary Canadian! Let's have a drink (or two) to celebrate it... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Howie Hodge wrote:
(Never try to keep up with Rick Martin on the course....)


I wouldn't even try. He's French-Canadian...their drinking prowess is nothing short of legendary.

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:25 pm ]
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Rico must own a cab company; many local golfers have had to take one home after playing 18 with him!!

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:47 pm ]
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i got drunk while curling. does that count for anything?

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:55 pm ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i got drunk while curling. does that count for anything?



Curling 12 oz.'ers?? :whistle:

Author:  icehound [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:05 pm ]
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ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i got drunk while curling. does that count for anything?


Drunk? While Curling? God love ya', yer an eas'coaster, bai...

Honorary Newfie! And they can drink, too!

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:36 pm ]
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Image

Someone's got the right idea..... :D

Author:  ironyisadeadscene [ Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:13 pm ]
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icehound wrote:
ironyisadeadscene wrote:
i got drunk while curling. does that count for anything?


Drunk? While Curling? God love ya', yer an eas'coaster, bai...

Honorary Newfie! And they can drink, too!


hooray!

i usually dont drink when playing golf. being i played competitive golf, im always in that mindset: "gotta play par golf... gotta play par golf.." but, generally, im on the green with a fat cigar in my mouth.

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:18 am ]
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Well, as someone who gets out but a couple times a year on the golf course, I can't get any worse. So I booze because I'm always going to lose.......

Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:59 am ]
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Howie Hodge wrote:
Image

Someone's got the right idea..... :D

I love it. :obscene-drinkingchug: :obscene-drinkingdrunk: :obscene-drinkingcheers: :obscene-drinkingbuddies: :obscene-drinkingbeer: :romance-heart: :romance-heartbeating: :romance-hearteyes: :romance-heartsfade: :romance-heartsmiley: :romance-heartspink: :romance-heartsthree: :romance-heartstiny: :romance-inlove: :romance-interracial: :romance-kisscheek: :romance-kisslips: :romance-lips: :romance-lovebluered: :romance-lovegoddess: :romance-smileyheart: :romance-romance: :romance-wub: :romance-threesome: :romance-lovestory:

Woo for love and beer.

Author:  Howie Hodge [ Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:39 am ]
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Hope this was the exception, and not the rule for Rick. Mistakes happen; irresponsibility is a condemnation.......

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