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Author:  Los9090 [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:06 pm ]
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as per TSN
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=303247

Defenitely Wayne's 92 goal year and Glenn Hall's 502 consecutive games in goal for sure
Author:  mechaphil [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:11 pm ]
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Darryl Sittler's 10 point night for sure. That's one of my favorite records right there.
Author:  Wozniak [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:44 am ]
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the thing with all these records is that eventually they all have a chance of falling. sports tend to move through cycles or a push and pull between offense and defense. think about when Gretzky set the records and did his thing. the goalies were horrible. im not taking away from the accomplishment but some of the goals that went in were just plain retarded. what this created were better trained goalies a few hockey generations later. now the goalies have caught up and seem to be coming ahead with the likes of Miller Brouder, Luoungo, etc. eventually this will give way to a better generation of scorers that will make some of these goalies look foolish, the goalies get better, scorers get better and so on.
Author:  Howie Hodge [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:46 am ]
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mechaphil wrote:
Darryl Sittler's 10 point night for sure. That's one of my favorite records right there.


Unless there is ever a goalie as piss poor as Boston's Dave Reece, it will never be broken. I watched that game. It got rediculous; I mean Sittler and Spuds Thompson were laughing at how absurd some of the goals were. Great record, but I've seen better performances.

Not taking anything away from Darryl, he was always a class act.
Author:  Los9090 [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:23 pm ]
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Wozniak wrote:
the thing with all these records is that eventually they all have a chance of falling. sports tend to move through cycles or a push and pull between offense and defense. think about when Gretzky set the records and did his thing. the goalies were horrible. im not taking away from the accomplishment but some of the goals that went in were just plain retarded. what this created were better trained goalies a few hockey generations later. now the goalies have caught up and seem to be coming ahead with the likes of Miller Brouder, Luoungo, etc. eventually this will give way to a better generation of scorers that will make some of these goalies look foolish, the goalies get better, scorers get better and so on.

I don't know about that...I mean c'mon, how about that 215 point campaign?!
Author:  daz28 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:50 am ]
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I'll have to agree with Wozniak. The game's rules ebb and flow with the wind. If the console-playing generation demographic ever digs deep into the NHL's fan base, you may see 7-8 goals/game. Ya never know, cause they will follow the money. This game doesn't(can't afford to)walk on hallowed ground anymore.
Author:  Wozniak [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:40 am ]
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Los9090 wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
the thing with all these records is that eventually they all have a chance of falling. sports tend to move through cycles or a push and pull between offense and defense. think about when Gretzky set the records and did his thing. the goalies were horrible. im not taking away from the accomplishment but some of the goals that went in were just plain retarded. what this created were better trained goalies a few hockey generations later. now the goalies have caught up and seem to be coming ahead with the likes of Miller Brouder, Luoungo, etc. eventually this will give way to a better generation of scorers that will make some of these goalies look foolish, the goalies get better, scorers get better and so on.

I don't know about that...I mean c'mon, how about that 215 point campaign?!

i think you missed the point. i never said that they will be broken only that they have the chance to be. some records (like the 215pt) will probably never be broken. the point was that sports take turns in offensive and defensive dominance. meaning that when the balance of power shifts far enough someone might come along that could challenge some of the records.
Author:  Howie Hodge [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:31 am ]
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Wozniak wrote:
Los9090 wrote:
Wozniak wrote:
the thing with all these records is that eventually they all have a chance of falling. sports tend to move through cycles or a push and pull between offense and defense. think about when Gretzky set the records and did his thing. the goalies were horrible. im not taking away from the accomplishment but some of the goals that went in were just plain retarded. what this created were better trained goalies a few hockey generations later. now the goalies have caught up and seem to be coming ahead with the likes of Miller Brouder, Luoungo, etc. eventually this will give way to a better generation of scorers that will make some of these goalies look foolish, the goalies get better, scorers get better and so on.

I don't know about that...I mean c'mon, how about that 215 point campaign?!

i think you missed the point. i never said that they will be broken only that they have the chance to be. some records (like the 215pt) will probably never be broken. the point was that sports take turns in offensive and defensive dominance. meaning that when the balance of power shifts far enough someone might come along that could challenge some of the records.



Point taken; economics will likely prevent such a combination of offensive superstars ever to all be together on one team again. I mean on those Edmonton teams Ovechkin could have put up 200 points, if it weren't for the fact he was only one at the time....
Author:  Skyline_BNR34 [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:47 pm ]
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The salary cap era will make every team need to build around two superstars and a goalie or a few good players.

No team will be able to have a team of Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, and the other greats he played with because none of them would take the amount of money to stay.
Author:  hockeyplaya00 [ Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:32 pm ]
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What if a player like Ovechkin or Crosby comes along with a pretty good team and in order to keep that team together he signs for 2-4 million and so do the other good players on that team, thus creating a dynasty and dominating the league. I can see the league implanting a rule that says says if you get 100 points you cant get less than 6 million lol.
Author:  Howie Hodge [ Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:38 am ]
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The union would never let the players take well below face value to keep a team together; nor would the players do it.
Author:  Los9090 [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:21 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
The salary cap era will make every team need to build around two superstars and a goalie or a few good players.

No team will be able to have a team of Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, and the other greats he played with because none of them would take the amount of money to stay.

As well as Kurri and Fuhr...yeah its impossible. Looking at the Islander and Canadian dynasties, no way would those teams be the same. Unless players today accept less $...
Author:  slesh [ Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:36 pm ]
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Skyline_BNR34 wrote:
The salary cap era will make every team need to build around two superstars and a goalie or a few good players.

No team will be able to have a team of Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Anderson, and the other greats he played with because none of them would take the amount of money to stay.

Although, that was just a fuckin awsome team. Man Sky, just by this post brings back the memories.
The Oilers were the shit and they played hockey like no other roster I had see or have seen since then.

I remember a game where they beat Buf 5 to 4 in Buf and Perreault had a couple of goals and Gretzky paid him the ultimate compliment following the game. He said Gilbert was one of his hero's as he grew into hockey and that playing against him and seeing him work the puck the way he did that game was magical and inspired him.

Inspired him? Ya, Wayne scored the game winner late in the 3rd lol. But that roster was nothing less than pure greatness. And I completely agree with you, those days are over, but what memories they brought us.
Author:  Godzilla1960 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:11 pm ]
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It is theoretically possible for a team to earn 164 points in an 82 game season. Because the length of the season has varied throughout NHL history, it is tough to set a meaningful point mark as a record (record for most points: 132, by 1976–77 Montreal Canadiens). However, going through an entire season, losing only 8 games, as the '76-'77 Montreal Canadiens did, doesn't seem like a breakable record in this age of parity.

Nor does the record for fewest wins in a season (also 8, by the 1974–75 Washington Capitals) seem like it is in any danger of falling within our lifetime.
Author:  Los9090 [ Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:38 am ]
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hmm good call. especially with Washington winning only 8 games. Even those horrible Islander teams were able to win close to 20
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