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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
We now have the third Winter Classic in the bag. What is your evaluation of the event and the game? I think the event is getting better each year, in terms of marketing. The NHL caught another break with the weather, although snow would have been magical. The game itself wasn't going to win any new fans to the sport of hockey. But, perhaps that doesn't matter. Most of the Super Bowl games suck, and that doesn't keep people from tuning in. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Game-wise, the Red Wings-Blackhawks game was best. Spectacle-wise, the Sabres-Penguins was best. Dog and pony show-wise, this last one was best. They need to play in another football stadium to maximize the potential. Better sightlines, bigger spectacle, the tailgating festivities, much bigger attendance, etc etc |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Any game on national broadcast TV is a good game for the NHL. The game itself was mildly entertaining. Nothing can beat the game at the Ralph for me though. |
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| Author: | sabresindc [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
As a whole, the event is a win for the league. I haven't been to one so I don't know what the NHL does pre-game to bring the masses....song and dance stuff like concerts, NHL experience events, etc. I hope the make it more of a show than just the game. |
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
I would like to see the NHL package a couple of games around the Classic. This year NBC followed the game with ice dancing. How about another indoor game in the late afternoon or evening? Schedule a high energy rivalry game, like the Leafs-Canadiens, an Atlantic division game (they all hate each other), or a Sabres-Senators game - something that is going to show new fans the intensity of hockey. They should try to hold the entire afternnon and evening, until the big college football game at night. |
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| Author: | patkane88 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Godzilla1960 wrote: I would like to see the NHL package a couple of games around the Classic. This year NBC followed the game with ice dancing. How about another indoor game in the late afternoon or evening? Schedule a high energy rivalry game, like the Leafs-Canadiens, an Atlantic division game (they all hate each other), or a Sabres-Senators game - something that is going to show new fans the intensity of hockey. They should try to hold the entire afternnon and evening, until the big college football game at night. There is probably going to be two of these outdoor games next year so it will be a full day of hockey I would guess. |
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| Author: | Crosscheck [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
If they really want to have an insane spectacle, they need to put the game in Canada. Too bad NBC doesn't care about ratings in Canada. I firmly believe Bettman would put the damn thing in the desert if he could. |
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| Author: | patkane88 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Crosscheck wrote: If they really want to have an insane spectacle, they need to put the game in Canada. Too bad NBC doesn't care about ratings in Canada. I firmly believe Bettman would put the damn thing in the desert if he could. To Bettman ice and desert just seem to go together. 
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
football stadiums are all pretty much the same. they dont have the charm of baseball stadiums. thats why i would keep them away from football stadiums as much as possible. this game was the best. easily. the crowds were very into it, and philly was very well represented. they transformed the most magical sporting venue still in operation into something even bigger. to me, i doubt any future games will match this one. my guess is yankee stadium gets the next one, deservedly so. |
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| Author: | Timbo Slice [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Better than last years game, but not nearly as good as ours. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
mothah fuckahs  and they are going to break this record too! |
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| Author: | CriminallyVu1gar [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
I thought it was alright. Certainly the ice quality continues to improve. If you think it was better than hawks-wings though you need to watch that game again. It was spectacular. My Two Cents: Keep it in markets that care. Buffalo, Minnesota, Detroit, Boston, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. None of this NYC/NJ bullshit, their fans just suck. Keep bringing teams that continually draw fans. We don't need to see the caps where their most diehard fans have only supported the team for the past three years. Do not bring a southern team because none of their fans will travel, unless you're in Buffalo or Minnesota because those games would sell out regardless. Let's just get rid of the baseball stadiums please. For several reasons. Football stadiums are bigger and seat more fans. If you keep the classic in the best markets, selling out won't be an issue. Baseball has shown itself to be a dying sport where those in charge are unwilling to make the changes necessary to improve the game (hello instant replay, not scheduling playoff games late, steroids testing, and HD video boards). Let's just keep our distance. Baseball fans are the least passionate as a whole of any major sport in North America. Again, let's keep our distance. In addition to having better sight lines, football stadiums tend to have better video equipment (HD scoreboards for replays) than baseball stadiums. Since hockey is a sport that benefits greatly from showing replays, and the fans are further from the ice than usual, this is fairly important. Football and hockey are both physical sports. Baseball is not. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
look. no one knows, or cares about ralph wilson stadium. but EVERYONE knows what fenway is. or wrigley. football stadiums are boring. the buffalo classic was awesome, but if it wasnt everyone who is here favourite team involved, it would easily be the worst. no character. at all. thats why i hate football stadiums. there is no character to those stadiums. but wrigley? fenway? i mean, holy shit. the game looks so much cooler, so much more fun when placed in a baseball diamond. |
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| Author: | mechaphil [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
Until a more back and forth game comes along, the 'Hawks-Red Wings game is the best on-ice Classic yet. But nothing can match the magic of that snowy New Year's Day in Orchard Park. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
also, dont forget this years frozen four is taking place in a football stadium. boring. |
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
I am not a baseball fan. The game is too slow for me. I've tried a couple of times, but the appeal of the sport escapes me. That said, I do believe baseball has the best stories (which is why baseball often makes for the best sports movies) and they also have the parks with the most personality and sense of tradition. Even the newer stadiums, like Camden Yards, are beautiful parks with real personality. Wrigley Field, Fenway, Yankee Stadium...mention those and people know what you are talking about. Football stadiums, while they hold more people, just don't have that same quality. Maybe Soldier Field in Chicago and Lambeau Field in Green Bay can hang with the baseball stadiums, but most football fields hold no charm or excitement. I think a big part of the interest in this year's Classic was that it was being held at Fenway. It wouldn't have been the same at Gillette Stadium. Still, I don't know how many of those classic parks, baseball or football, are left in snowy climes for future Classics. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
soldier field has been completely rebuilt... its a fucking disaster. heres my list of possibilities for next year. in MY order. 1. target field -- minneapolis 2. citi field -- new york 3. heinze field/pnc park -- pittsburgh 4. that canal in ottawa -- ottawa 5. nationals park -- washington dc 6. comerica park -- detroit 7. yankee stadium -- new york and, heres a thought... we all know jerry jones is a showboat with deep pockets. dallas gets kinda cold. i could see him throwing dollars around to show off his brand new cowboys stadium. not saying i want it, but it could happen. coors field in denver would be bitchin too. or invesco field at mile high in denver too. rodgers centre in toronto COULD work, but that place flat out sucks. |
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| Author: | Godzilla1960 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
The problem with NYC and DC are that they are too warm. Both are along the coast and their average temperatures for December and January are just about at or above freezing. The Winter Classic has to remain a WINTER classic. That means Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo, Boston and Denver (both just on the inside edge of acceptible weather), Columbus/Cleveland, Pittsburgh (but not Philadelphia - too warm), Minneapolis/St. Paul, and the Canadian cities. |
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| Author: | ironyisadeadscene [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
eh, if they can hold in a game in las vegas, the winter classic could be an outlet for bettman to "grow the game" id really like to see minnesota get it, and detroit. comerica park! |
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| Author: | hockeyplaya00 [ Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Your Review of This Year's Winter Classic |
One in Denver would be cool I think though the best rival for them would be Detroit and they already appeared in one/ |
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